XC 60 - oil change question

[tunnie]

First job of the spring is change the oil in the Zafira, all the short runs it's doing will kill the oil and sludge up. So aiming for at least yearly changes. Had oil change when I bought it, so will do one in spring time.

If I can figure out how, lack of videos on the tube for Zaf Tourer 2.0 CDTi, might have to use Insignia as reference. 

[Lincs Robert]

If all your looking to do, is change the oil and filter for peace of mind, then just go and buy a filter from Volvo, and a quality oil, and change it, you don't have to inform any body,
Regular oil changes never hurt a car, just do it, and stop faffing about

Being a modern soot chucker, it has to be the right spec to protect the DPF nowadays.

Indeed, 0W-30 I'm advised.

[Sir Tigger KC]

First job of the spring is change the oil in the Zafira, all the short runs it's doing will kill the oil and sludge up. So aiming for at least yearly changes. Had oil change when I bought it, so will do one in spring time.

If I can figure out how, lack of videos on the tube for Zaf Tourer 2.0 CDTi, might have to use Insignia as reference. 

There will be a little bung on the bottom of the sump and if you undo it all the oil will fall out!      

[tunnie]

First job of the spring is change the oil in the Zafira, all the short runs it's doing will kill the oil and sludge up. So aiming for at least yearly changes. Had oil change when I bought it, so will do one in spring time.

If I can figure out how, lack of videos on the tube for Zaf Tourer 2.0 CDTi, might have to use Insignia as reference. 

There will be a little bung on the bottom of the sump and if you undo it all the oil will fall out!      

Well there is that 

Not been under yet, but wondering about under tray and such. But being GM already looks better to jack and axel stand than the VW.

[TheBoy]

If all your looking to do, is change the oil and filter for peace of mind, then just go and buy a filter from Volvo, and a quality oil, and change it, you don't have to inform any body,
Regular oil changes never hurt a car, just do it, and stop faffing about

Being a modern soot chucker, it has to be the right spec to protect the DPF nowadays.

Indeed, 0W-30 I'm advised.

LOL, far, far, FAR more than just that.  Look the Volvo spec up in the handbook and get investigating.  It has to meet a lot of specs, and having a DPF will additionally have to meet one of the many low ash type specs.

[tunnie]

Wonder if GM's standard 10/40 semi is good enough for the bus 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Wonder if GM's standard 10/40 semi is good enough for the bus 

Stop thread jacking!   

[TheBoy]

Wonder if GM's standard 10/40 semi is good enough for the bus 

Absolutely, categorically not.  Nor is the old 5W30 dexos2 fully synth, which I believe isn't suitable for any DPF car.

[biggriffin]

Go to local factor, get a 0/30w low saps, full fat. 

Most euro 5-6 trucks now use a 5/30 low saps some Iveco use 0/30w low saps.

[Lizzie Zoom]

^^^Wot e sed, I believe this battle was fought and won by Indies many years ago, that warranty is not invalidated provided that Manufacturers spec/parts are used. I do not believe that they could use the argument that it had been serviced early as a warranty denial excuse.

I suspect they could and would if they suspected it had been DIY'd whilst in warranty. 

It'll cost you a lot more if the car develops a problem and you've invalidated your warranty. 

Yes indeed.  With all new car dealer warranties as soon as anyone else, DIY'er or non-dealer garage touch the car in any way, your warranty is invalidated. It is not worth the risk, so just let the dealer do the specified work.  As it is a new car, wasn't there a service agreement for 3 years thrown in?  The first service was always free in my day, but they were company fleet cars.

No this is incorrect Lizzie.  It used to be the case, but the law has changed that you can have your car serviced at a VAT registered garage and as long as they use genuine parts, it dosn't affect your warranty. 

Some here seem to think that you can DIY with genuine parts as well and not affect your warranty, but I certainly wouldn't want to test that. 

I'll be interested to see what Jimmy has to say on this subject as he has to be our resident expert on warranty issues! 

It is always possible I am out of date on this, but I quote a paragraph from the terms and conditions of a BMW warranty:

"If servicing has been carried out by a Non Authorised Workshop, the Authorised BMW Centre and/or BMW Service Authorised Workshop reserve the right to reject any claim where the cause of the defect is due to inadequate servicing or the use of inadequate parts by the Non Authorised Workshop"

Now, does this not support what I stated?  It at least means you would be risking a rejection of any claim for, say, a broken engine component if someone not authorised by BMW has worked on your vehicle, giving them an excuse to do so. The words of Dirty Harry come to mind: "well punk, do you feel lucky...."

[Sir Tigger KC]

^^^Wot e sed, I believe this battle was fought and won by Indies many years ago, that warranty is not invalidated provided that Manufacturers spec/parts are used. I do not believe that they could use the argument that it had been serviced early as a warranty denial excuse.

I suspect they could and would if they suspected it had been DIY'd whilst in warranty. 

It'll cost you a lot more if the car develops a problem and you've invalidated your warranty. 

Yes indeed.  With all new car dealer warranties as soon as anyone else, DIY'er or non-dealer garage touch the car in any way, your warranty is invalidated. It is not worth the risk, so just let the dealer do the specified work.  As it is a new car, wasn't there a service agreement for 3 years thrown in?  The first service was always free in my day, but they were company fleet cars.

No this is incorrect Lizzie.  It used to be the case, but the law has changed that you can have your car serviced at a VAT registered garage and as long as they use genuine parts, it dosn't affect your warranty. 

Some here seem to think that you can DIY with genuine parts as well and not affect your warranty, but I certainly wouldn't want to test that. 

I'll be interested to see what Jimmy has to say on this subject as he has to be our resident expert on warranty issues! 

It is always possible I am out of date on this, but I quote a paragraph from the terms and conditions of a BMW warranty:

"If servicing has been carried out by a Non Authorised Workshop, the Authorised BMW Centre and/or BMW Service Authorised Workshop reserve the right to reject any claim where the cause of the defect is due to inadequate servicing or the use of inadequate parts by the Non Authorised Workshop"

Now, does this not support what I stated?  It at least means you would be risking a rejection of any claim for, say, a broken engine component if someone not authorised by BMW has worked on your vehicle, giving them an excuse to do so. The words of Dirty Harry come to mind: "well punk, do you feel lucky...."

How old is that BMW warranty though Lizzie?    The law change is fairly recent I think? 

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that BMW havn't changed the wording on their warranties to deter people from taking their cars to indy garages. 

[tunnie]

When I bought my VW from car giant, I had it confirmed in writing from them that DIY service did not impact the warrenty. As long as I used correct oils and followed the service schedule.

[Sir Tigger KC]

When I bought my VW from car giant, I had it confirmed in writing from them that DIY service did not impact the warrenty. As long as I used correct oils and followed the service schedule.

That wasn't a brand new car though Tunnie and I doubt that you'd get the same from a franchised dealer with a new car. 

[henryd]

^^^Wot e sed, I believe this battle was fought and won by Indies many years ago, that warranty is not invalidated provided that Manufacturers spec/parts are used. I do not believe that they could use the argument that it had been serviced early as a warranty denial
I suspect they could and would if they suspected it had been DIY'd whilst in warranty. 

It'll cost you a lot more if the car develops a problem and you've invalidated your warranty. 

Yes indeed.  With all new car dealer warranties as soon as anyone else, DIY'er or non-dealer garage touch the car in any way, your warranty is invalidated. It is not worth the risk, so just let the dealer do the specified work.  As it is a new car, wasn't there a service agreement for 3 years thrown in?  The first service was always free in my day, but they were company fleet cars.

No this is incorrect Lizzie.  It used to be the case, but the law has changed that you can have your car serviced at a VAT registered garage and as long as they use genuine parts, it dosn't affect your warranty. 

Some here seem to think that you can DIY with genuine parts as well and not affect your warranty, but I certainly wouldn't want to test that. 

I'll be interested to see what Jimmy has to say on this subject as he has to be our resident expert on warranty issues! 

It is always possible I am out of date on this, but I quote a paragraph from the terms and conditions of a BMW warranty:

"If servicing has been carried out by a Non Authorised Workshop, the Authorised BMW Centre and/or BMW Service Authorised Workshop reserve the right to reject any claim where the cause of the defect is due to inadequate servicing or the use of inadequate parts by the Non Authorised Workshop"

Now, does this not support what I stated?  It at least means you would be risking a rejection of any claim for, say, a broken engine component if someone not authorised by BMW has worked on your vehicle, giving them an excuse to do so. The words of Dirty Harry come to mind: "well punk, do you feel lucky...."

How old is that BMW warranty though Lizzie?    The law change is fairly recent I think? 

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that BMW havn't changed the wording on their warranties to deter people from taking their cars to indy garages. 

[henryd]

^^^Wot e sed, I believe this battle was fought and won by Indies many years ago, that warranty is not invalidated provided that Manufacturers spec/parts are used. I do not believe that they could use the argument that it had been serviced early as a warranty denial
I suspect they could and would if they suspected it had been DIY'd whilst in warranty. 

It'll cost you a lot more if the car develops a problem and you've invalidated your warranty. 

Yes indeed.  With all new car dealer warranties as soon as anyone else, DIY'er or non-dealer garage touch the car in any way, your warranty is invalidated. It is not worth the risk, so just let the dealer do the specified work.  As it is a new car, wasn't there a service agreement for 3 years thrown in?  The first service was always free in my day, but they were company fleet cars.

No this is incorrect Lizzie.  It used to be the case, but the law has changed that you can have your car serviced at a VAT registered garage and as long as they use genuine parts, it dosn't affect your warranty. 

Some here seem to think that you can DIY with genuine parts as well and not affect your warranty, but I certainly wouldn't want to test that. 

I'll be interested to see what Jimmy has to say on this subject as he has to be our resident expert on warranty issues! 

It is always possible I am out of date on this, but I quote a paragraph from the terms and conditions of a BMW warranty:

"If servicing has been carried out by a Non Authorised Workshop, the Authorised BMW Centre and/or BMW Service Authorised Workshop reserve the right to reject any claim where the cause of the defect is due to inadequate servicing or the use of inadequate parts by the Non Authorised Workshop"

Now, does this not support what I stated?  It at least means you would be risking a rejection of any claim for, say, a broken engine component if someone not authorised by BMW has worked on your vehicle, giving them an excuse to do so. The words of Dirty Harry come to mind: "well punk, do you feel lucky...."

How old is that BMW warranty though Lizzie?    The law change is fairly recent I think? 

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that BMW havn't changed the wording on their warranties to deter people from taking their cars to indy garages. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_Exemption_Regulation