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Started by BazaJT, 03 July 2018, 20:33:49

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Sir Tigger KC

I've done a fair bit of recreational diving and have been in some tight enclosed spots when wreck diving.  I just can't think it will end well trying to teach these kids to dive and then pretty much their first dive will be an extremely challenging dive that even the experts find difficult.  :-\
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

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zirk

Quote from: dave the builder on 03 July 2018, 21:37:13
you'd think international rescue would have some gadget to get them out
world full of technology ,but they want to teach kids to scuba dive
after spending days worrying about if they will drown or not  :'(
They do its called the Mole, apparently you can train Thai Monkys to operate it, not sure how big the Cave is thought, the Kids could end up as Chop Suey if they get it wrong.  ;D


zirk

Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 04 July 2018, 20:53:34
I've done a fair bit of recreational diving and have been in some tight enclosed spots when wreck diving.  I just can't think it will end well trying to teach these kids to dive and then pretty much their first dive will be an extremely challenging dive that even the experts find difficult.  :-\
Yep agreed, you could decide to take them out one by one and hope for a high success rate, or just take the plunge and do them in batches and await the mass panic half way through the journey.  :(

Lizzie Zoom

Quote from: Raeturbo on 04 July 2018, 20:35:53
Drill down from the top to the cave ceiling?

Or send in a team of ex-Welsh miners to create a tunnel :D ;)

Seriously though, any option like drilling or mining down will be seriously risky.  I don't know what the geology is like in those parts, but collapsing tunnels, or the very cave the boys are in must be a real risk.

Sir Tigger KC

They need a tough boy sized water tight pod with it's own air supply that can be pulled through the tunnels.  ;)

As I understand it though some of these tunnels are an extremely tight squeeze to get through.  :-\
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

omegod

I'd personally ask for a pistol to be sent through and I'd happily do myself in rather than have to go through all that to get out, deep water and tight spaces are my worst nightmare  :o :'(
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Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: omegod on 04 July 2018, 21:28:24
I'd personally ask for a pistol to be sent through and I'd happily do myself in rather than have to go through all that to get out, deep water and tight spaces are my worst nightmare  :o :'(

Or you could sit tight for 4 months and tell them to keep sending the Pad Thai's and McDonald's through!  ;D


RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

STEMO

Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 04 July 2018, 21:33:46
Quote from: omegod on 04 July 2018, 21:28:24
I'd personally ask for a pistol to be sent through and I'd happily do myself in rather than have to go through all that to get out, deep water and tight spaces are my worst nightmare  :o :'(

Or you could sit tight for 4 months and tell them to keep sending the Pad Thai's and McDonald's through!  ;D
Cave will be full of shit by then.

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: STEMO on 04 July 2018, 22:04:00
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 04 July 2018, 21:33:46
Quote from: omegod on 04 July 2018, 21:28:24
I'd personally ask for a pistol to be sent through and I'd happily do myself in rather than have to go through all that to get out, deep water and tight spaces are my worst nightmare  :o :'(

Or you could sit tight for 4 months and tell them to keep sending the Pad Thai's and McDonald's through!  ;D
Cave will be full of shit by then.

;D
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Raeturbo

Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 04 July 2018, 21:04:21
Quote from: Raeturbo on 04 July 2018, 20:35:53
Drill down from the top to the cave ceiling?

Or send in a team of ex-Welsh miners to create a tunnel :D ;)

Seriously though, any option like drilling or mining down will be seriously risky.  I don't know what the geology is like in those parts, but collapsing tunnels, or the very cave the boys are in must be a real risk.
.  Well it's all risky, have you any idea how far the surface is from the ceiling?
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Steve B

Ring the yanks....they jumped in on the last undergroung gig in chile to get them blokes out that mine.....

BazaJT

The weather has been pretty kind to them and they've managed to lower the water level by a reasonable amount[comparatively speaking]but nowhere near enough and if the weather turns then they're back to fighting the tide.Current thinking seems to be that if they go for getting them out now/soon rather than leaving them until after monsoon season then they'll bring them one at a time starting with the strongest first.

BazaJT

One of the rescue divers-apparently an ex Thai navy seal-has died after running out of oxygen and not being found in time to be saved,so what odds the kids making it if they try bringing them out that way?

zirk

Quote from: BazaJT on 06 July 2018, 07:38:18
One of the rescue divers-apparently an ex Thai navy seal-has died after running out of oxygen and not being found in time to be saved,so what odds the kids making it if they try bringing them out that way?
He ran out of Air?, so where was hes Dive Buddy?? please dont tell me he went Cave Diving on his own.

deviator

Quote from: zirk on 06 July 2018, 14:03:51
Quote from: BazaJT on 06 July 2018, 07:38:18
One of the rescue divers-apparently an ex Thai navy seal-has died after running out of oxygen and not being found in time to be saved,so what odds the kids making it if they try bringing them out that way?
He ran out of Air?, so where was hes Dive Buddy?? please dont tell me he went Cave Diving on his own.

To be fair, his dive buddy could have been next to him and he wouldn't have seen him.
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