Second Referendum

[STEMO]

The thread is entitled 'second referendum'. Well, that's not gonna happen now. 

[Doctor Gollum]

The thread is entitled 'second referendum'. Well, that's not gonna happen now. 

Damn straight. Was never going to happen. So all the whiney leftie clunge can go opps themselves... Twice...

[Doctor Gollum]

I'll be honest.  I gives me no pleasure to say "I predicted this when I tried to convince people to vote remain"

I'm tired and scared for the future.

ffs grow a pair of balls.
Snowflake !

You're too gentle... Needs a kick up the arse to really drive it home

[TheBoy]

I'll be honest.  I gives me no pleasure to say "I predicted this when I tried to convince people to vote remain"

I'm tired and scared for the future.

It was all very predictable as soon as the result of the referendum was announced.

And it has played out pretty much as expected.


I'm beyond caring.  The damage has been done (and anyone disagreeing needs to pull their head from their browneye), and we need to limit the damage by doing something - anything - on the 29th. Hard, Soft, No - I care not.

[STEMO]

What are all the twots who've been standing out in the rain waving their 'peoples vote' flags gonna do now. Get a fûckin job?

[Doctor Gollum]

What are all the twots who've been standing out in the rain waving their 'peoples vote' flags gonna do now. Get a fûckin job?

Hopefully, then we can stop being bombarded by all the whining

[TheBoy]

I'll be honest.  I gives me no pleasure to say "I predicted this when I tried to convince people to vote remain"

I'm tired and scared for the future.

ffs grow a pair of balls.
Snowflake !

I'll be honest.  I gives me no pleasure to say "I predicted this when I tried to convince people to vote remain"

I'm tired and scared for the future.

ffs grow a pair of balls.
Snowflake !

You're too gentle... Needs a kick up the arse to really drive it home

As said on the last thread, personal insults of other members will not be tolerated 

I fully understand its a very emotive subject, and people have very entrenched, polarised views.  But further personal insults will end up in bans.


I personally welcome debate, but we do not have to lower ourselves to the levels of our politicians. We (hopefully) are intelligent and civil enough to keep the debate non personal, and not resort to insults towards those who disagree with our own personal viewpoint.


You have all been warned.  And because I'm sick and tired of it, I won't opps around pruning/moderating stuff. Entire threads will go, and people will be kicked off.

[STEMO]

Now hang on a cotton pickin minute. What am I supposed to do all day if I can't insult other members? 

[Varche]

Well there is that painting job you promised the boss you would do. 

[dave the builder]

Now hang on a cotton pickin minute. What am I supposed to do all day if I can't insult other members? 

Pull the fridge out and have a spring clean behind it
that should keep you busy* 

*(if last time was anything to go by)

[STEMO]

Well there is that painting job you promised the boss you would do. 

I have to recover from taking up the stair carpet first, it can take some time at my age.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The thread is entitled 'second referendum'. Well, that's not gonna happen now. 

I wouldn't be so sure about that. 

On the face of it, the remain campaign have lost an opportunity to present the EU with a reason to extend A50.  ie a lengthy extension to hold a 2nd referendum.

But... Many of the MP's (mostly Labour) who have been campaigning for a 2nd referendum abstained in today's vote, which is why the amendment was voted down.

The only reason I can think of why they did this was to keep their powder dry for a future occasion, when they think that they can win a vote on the 2nd referendum.

I think it's probably a risky strategy as there is no guarantee that John Bercow will allow another vote on the 2nd referendum. 

[Doctor Gollum]

God forbid that we have a hard, no deal Brexit and everything works out just fine 

[LC0112G]

Given that ...

May's deal has been rejected twice, (but it appears is going to be voted on again on Tuesday, so possibly thrice)
Second Referendum has been rejected once (but remains Labour Party policy)
No deal has been rejected once (but remains the default option)
The only thing that hasn't been rejected so far is the complete revocation of Art50 (though doubtless that would be rejected if put to the vote too)

Anyone predicting that any of the above is 'not gonna happen' is either brave or foolish. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I kind of agree, although my unscientific research suggests that the leave vote would be bigger if we had another vote.
As I see it - If the EU allow an extension of article 50 (by no means certain as all 27 have to agree to it) it will very much depend on how long it is.
If it is the short extension requested by May, then she will keep trying to get her deal through, and may well succeed. If she doesn't succeed, we leave on WTO terms.
If they insist on a long extension (1-2 years) Brexit will probably be killed off altogether during that time.
If they refuse an extension we leave on 29th March on WTO terms no matter what Parliament has voted for.

Lets hope they refuse an extension.