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Started by Sir Tigger KC, 25 May 2019, 18:22:53

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Lizzie Zoom

Quote from: Varche on 03 July 2019, 17:31:30
Red herring.

Our uk MEPs are a mixed bunch possibly only there for a short while depending on whether the useless Tories can deliver the so called " will of the people" Brexit.

If we Brexit we will have our own set of problems to confront. If we dont  Brexit then it is more of the same . No learning, listening or adapting.

The Brexit Party MEP's are certainly only there to cause as much trouble, and be a nuisance, as they can for the benefit of UK audiences ;D ;D ;)

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 03 July 2019, 17:49:07
Quote from: Varche on 03 July 2019, 17:31:30
Red herring.

Our uk MEPs are a mixed bunch possibly only there for a short while depending on whether the useless Tories can deliver the so called " will of the people" Brexit.

If we Brexit we will have our own set of problems to confront. If we dont  Brexit then it is more of the same . No learning, listening or adapting.

The Brexit Party MEP's are certainly only there to cause as much trouble, and be a nuisance, as they can for the benefit of UK audiences ;D ;D ;)

Over on the Remainiac sites they are boiling over with outrage at the Brexit Party's little stunt.  ;D
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Varche

Still all a red herring.

Some expressing their feelings by turning their backs, others wearing a slightly offensive slogan on their backs.

The point I am making is a group of unelected people have got new unelected leaders with their agenda running the EU for "us".  There is no democracy in that. Putting it simply where is the democracy in the agenda?  Not once have we been asked to choose on a way forward for the EU.

I know politics in both the UK and Spain is not perfect but at least the parties have manifestoes which they should follow when elected. Should being the operative word.
The biggest joke on mankind is that computers have started asking humans to prove that they aren't a robot.

Migv6 le Frog Fan

Christine Legarde is the perfect candidate to run the European central Bank. She was convicted of criminal negligence in a French financial corruption case three years ago. She should have served a few years behind bars, but she is so deeply imbedded in the EU establishment they were never going to allow her to be given anything more than a mild slap on the wrist. Shes as bent as a nine bob note.
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Lizzie Zoom

Quote from: Varche on 03 July 2019, 18:14:29
Still all a red herring.

Some expressing their feelings by turning their backs, others wearing a slightly offensive slogan on their backs.

The point I am making is a group of unelected people have got new unelected leaders with their agenda running the EU for "us".  There is no democracy in that. Putting it simply where is the democracy in the agenda?  Not once have we been asked to choose on a way forward for the EU.

I know politics in both the UK and Spain is not perfect but at least the parties have manifestoes which they should follow when elected. Should being the operative word.

Why should we in the UK worry about that now as we are leaving. The Brexit Party is following its manifesto, to leave the EU! :D ;)

Varche

Quite simply because from day one after the vote , I said he establishment will overturn the vote.

I still believe that now. I cannot see Hunt or Johnson doing anything different following May selling us out. Parliament isnt going to vote for leaving. Nothing has changed other than that awful May has gone.

My money is still on us remaining. Hence it is actually very important what is actually going on in the EU right now. Brexit party or Lib Dems MEP antics are just a freak side show.
The biggest joke on mankind is that computers have started asking humans to prove that they aren't a robot.

Lizzie Zoom

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Quote from: Varche on 03 July 2019, 20:01:54
Quite simply because from day one after the vote , I said he establishment will overturn the vote.

I still believe that now. I cannot see Hunt or Johnson doing anything different following May selling us out. Parliament isnt going to vote for leaving. Nothing has changed other than that awful May has gone.

My money is still on us remaining. Hence it is actually very important what is actually going on in the EU right now. Brexit party or Lib Dems MEP antics are just a freak side show.


But that is the thing Varche, nothing on the face of it has changed really since the referendum, with everything still pointing towards a Brexit.

Now I was a remainer, but now.................let's face it the EU is going down, becoming worse for everyone in it, when it could have been so different, being a true assembly of European nations, not a federal dictatorship.

The fact that the Brexit Party have managed to have elected 29 MEP's, with 33% of the vote,when they represent nothing but "Leave", and has the other UK parties trailing badly in the numbers they have enjoyed, says a lot about how the British people are currently feeling.  That is why Parliament is so polarised and fragmented across the main parties, as the MP's know the underlying belief of the majority of British people, especially when the EU has been so difficult and dictatorial during negotiations, is to leave as soon as possible. They are completely fed up now, and just want out.  So do I now!

The Remainer MP's know that whatever they may want to do, they stand to be judged very badly if they now stand in the way of how the population feel. 

It is a mess, and the Conservative leadership contest will not resolve that.  A general election could, but we still have to reach an agreement with the EU to leave no matter who is in charge..................so, yes, we go around the Mulberry Bush again, again, again..................!!! ::) ::) ::) :(

Migv6 le Frog Fan

The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them  ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that.  :)

Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me.  ;D
Its weird being the same age as old people !

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Migv6 on 04 July 2019, 15:00:30
The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them  ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that.  :)

Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me.  ;D

I hope they supplied a SAE. :)

STEMO

We've staggered from one crap prime minister to another for years now, doesn't seem to make that much difference.

Sir Tigger KC

Meanwhile over in Brussels among our new crop of Dear Leaders we have two who have convictions, one who lost a vote of no confidence in his last job and one who is presently under investigation for misappropriation of public funds!  ::)

Yay!  :D
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Lizzie Zoom

Quote from: Migv6 on 04 July 2019, 15:00:30
The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them  ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that.  :)

Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me.  ;D

Yes, all true! :y

Buffoon Boris is actually suggesting far more action than that, with a spend, spend, philosophy that even close supporters, and more of the media, are questioning; latest, 20,000 more police ( :y :y), but that is after he was part of the process to cut numbers by 21,000 just a few years back!!  ::) ::) ::)

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 04 July 2019, 16:59:46
Quote from: Migv6 on 04 July 2019, 15:00:30
The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them  ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that.  :)

Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me.  ;D

Yes, all true! :y

Buffoon Boris is actually suggesting far more action than that, with a spend, spend, philosophy that even close supporters, and more of the media, are questioning; latest, 20,000 more police ( :y :y), but that is after he was part of the process to cut numbers by 21,000 just a few years back!!  ::) ::) ::)

He can't use the 'magic money tree' that the socialists are always banging on about because it doesn't really exist.

So he'll be shaking the 'real magic money tree' instead. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

.......I believe Jeremy Hunt also has his own 'magic money tree' :)

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2019, 17:15:43
.......I believe Jeremy Hunt also has his own 'magic money tree' :)

He got very spiky with Jeremy Whine the other day when Whine pointed out that he was the wealthiest member of the cabinet!  :)

Said something like " So what? I didn't come here to indulge in your politics of envy! "  :y
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......