Happy Independence Day

[Varche]

Ah burgers - that will be cheap hormone beef and ah chicken . That will be cheap chlorine washed chicken. The UK fast food outlets will be rubbing their hands in glee at the Brexit dividend

Cannot see why Britain would celebrate the US getting independence from the British Empire.

[aaronjb]

Cannot see why Britain would celebrate the US getting independence from the British Empire.

Because 330million people aren't our problem? 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Yes, WE ARE British and proud of it!!

But, look around us, how much American culture are we now surrounded with, as I, and you, use American software with an IT system that, to me, only reflects the USA - Christ, usually there is only English - USA version available on our gadgets, with spell checker even confusing me on the correct spelling of many words!!

That is the price we have paid for the United States bailing us out just as we were about to become part of the Third Reich.  So, what would you prefer if you could adjust that bit of history - in my field it is called "counter-factual history"?

No, today let the Americans and the free people of Europe celebrate Independence Day, as really that is what it is for each and every one of us: freedom away from the likes of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

No doubt at a rate of interest that  QuickQuid or Wonga would like.

We have never been equal partners with the USA. They say jump ......we ask how high?

Yes, absolutely right.  As the British Empire said that to foreigners and sent in gunboats to ensure it happened, in the American century of "empire" we have had to obey them.  If WW2 didn't start to reflect that fact, the Suez Crisis of 1956 certainly confirmed it totally and utterly.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Yes, WE ARE British and proud of it!!

But, look around us, how much American culture are we now surrounded with, as I, and you, use American software with an IT system that, to me, only reflects the USA - Christ, usually there is only English - USA version available on our gadgets, with spell checker even confusing me on the correct spelling of many words!!

That is the price we have paid for the United States bailing us out just as we were about to become part of the Third Reich.  So, what would you prefer if you could adjust that bit of history - in my field it is called "counter-factual history"?

No, today let the Americans and the free people of Europe celebrate Independence Day, as really that is what it is for each and every one of us: freedom away from the likes of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

Bollôcks. They're colonial upstarts. The only thing we've got to thank them for is obesity.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Bollôcks. They're colonial upstarts. The only thing we've got to thank them for is obesity.

And burgers! 

Hmmmm......obesity and burgers. I wonder if there is a link.

Anyway, we don't really know how to 'do' obesity like the yanks. We just play at it. We have much to learn.

[STEMO]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Yes, WE ARE British and proud of it!!

But, look around us, how much American culture are we now surrounded with, as I, and you, use American software with an IT system that, to me, only reflects the USA - Christ, usually there is only English - USA version available on our gadgets, with spell checker even confusing me on the correct spelling of many words!!

That is the price we have paid for the United States bailing us out just as we were about to become part of the Third Reich.  So, what would you prefer if you could adjust that bit of history - in my field it is called "counter-factual history"?

No, today let the Americans and the free people of Europe celebrate Independence Day, as really that is what it is for each and every one of us: freedom away from the likes of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

No doubt at a rate of interest that  QuickQuid or Wonga would like.

We have never been equal partners with the USA. They say jump ......we ask how high?

Yes, absolutely right.  As the British Empire said that to foreigners and sent in gunboats to ensure it happened, in the American century of "empire" we have had to obey them.  If WW2 didn't start to reflect that fact, the Suez Crisis of 1956 certainly confirmed it totally and utterly.

And the Falklands, though few will admit it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

We have never been equal partners with the USA. They say jump ......we ask how high?

Yes, absolutely right.  As the British Empire said that to foreigners and sent in gunboats to ensure it happened, in the American century of "empire" we have had to obey them.  If WW2 didn't start to reflect that fact, the Suez Crisis of 1956 certainly confirmed it totally and utterly.

And the Falklands, though few will admit it.

Yes if Ronnie had said "No way!" to Maggie, they'd be speaking Spanish and driving on the right down there now. 

Luckily the EU was embryonic in those days! 

[zirk]

The Yanks made one big mistake after Interdependence Day from Great Britain, they forgot to call there Language "American". 

[Doctor Gollum]

The Yanks made one big mistake after Interdependence Day from Great Britain, they forgot to call there Language "American". 

You say that, but in fact American English is truer to Olde English than some of the grammatical abominations we use

Just a shame they don't 'do' irony

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Yes, WE ARE British and proud of it!!

But, look around us, how much American culture are we now surrounded with, as I, and you, use American software with an IT system that, to me, only reflects the USA - Christ, usually there is only English - USA version available on our gadgets, with spell checker even confusing me on the correct spelling of many words!!

That is the price we have paid for the United States bailing us out just as we were about to become part of the Third Reich.  So, what would you prefer if you could adjust that bit of history - in my field it is called "counter-factual history"?

No, today let the Americans and the free people of Europe celebrate Independence Day, as really that is what it is for each and every one of us: freedom away from the likes of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

No doubt at a rate of interest that  QuickQuid or Wonga would like.

We have never been equal partners with the USA. They say jump ......we ask how high?

Yes, absolutely right.  As the British Empire said that to foreigners and sent in gunboats to ensure it happened, in the American century of "empire" we have had to obey them.  If WW2 didn't start to reflect that fact, the Suez Crisis of 1956 certainly confirmed it totally and utterly.

And the Falklands, though few will admit it.

Oh yes, very true .

A lot went on behind the scenes in the USA

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Mr Bitz would rather be French than American.

Loves everything France that fella.

You can go off people. 

[Rods2]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Yes, WE ARE British and proud of it!!

But, look around us, how much American culture are we now surrounded with, as I, and you, use American software with an IT system that, to me, only reflects the USA - Christ, usually there is only English - USA version available on our gadgets, with spell checker even confusing me on the correct spelling of many words!!

That is the price we have paid for the United States bailing us out just as we were about to become part of the Third Reich.  So, what would you prefer if you could adjust that bit of history - in my field it is called "counter-factual history"?

No, today let the Americans and the free people of Europe celebrate Independence Day, as really that is what it is for each and every one of us: freedom away from the likes of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

No doubt at a rate of interest that  QuickQuid or Wonga would like.

We have never been equal partners with the USA. They say jump ......we ask how high?

Yes, absolutely right.  As the British Empire said that to foreigners and sent in gunboats to ensure it happened, in the American century of "empire" we have had to obey them.  If WW2 didn't start to reflect that fact, the Suez Crisis of 1956 certainly confirmed it totally and utterly.

And the Falklands, though few will admit it.

Oh yes, very true .

A lot went on behind the scenes in the USA

Getting the latest version of Sidewinder AAMs made a massive difference with its much better IR sensor which resulted in a much improved launch to hit ratio for Sea Harriers. The US also supplied Stinger MANPADs which a member of the SAS used to shoot down a Pucara.

The list of Argentinian aircraft destroyed:

https://www.naval-history.net/F64-Falklands-Argentine_aircraft_lost.htm

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why would we be wanting to wish each other happy independence day ? We aren't Americans. 

Exactly. There's some on here wish they were though.

Yes, WE ARE British and proud of it!!

But, look around us, how much American culture are we now surrounded with, as I, and you, use American software with an IT system that, to me, only reflects the USA - Christ, usually there is only English - USA version available on our gadgets, with spell checker even confusing me on the correct spelling of many words!!

That is the price we have paid for the United States bailing us out just as we were about to become part of the Third Reich.  So, what would you prefer if you could adjust that bit of history - in my field it is called "counter-factual history"?

No, today let the Americans and the free people of Europe celebrate Independence Day, as really that is what it is for each and every one of us: freedom away from the likes of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

No doubt at a rate of interest that  QuickQuid or Wonga would like.

We have never been equal partners with the USA. They say jump ......we ask how high?

Yes, absolutely right.  As the British Empire said that to foreigners and sent in gunboats to ensure it happened, in the American century of "empire" we have had to obey them.  If WW2 didn't start to reflect that fact, the Suez Crisis of 1956 certainly confirmed it totally and utterly.

And the Falklands, though few will admit it.

Oh yes, very true .

A lot went on behind the scenes in the USA

Getting the latest version of Sidewinder AAMs made a massive difference with its much better IR sensor which resulted in a much improved launch to hit ratio for Sea Harriers. The US also supplied Stinger MANPADs which a member of the SAS used to shoot down a Pucara.

The list of Argentinian aircraft destroyed:

https://www.naval-history.net/F64-Falklands-Argentine_aircraft_lost.htm

That makes very interesting reading

[Doctor Gollum]

Presumably 'killed' means body recovered and 'lost' means nothing to recover

[Varche]

Just an observation.

It was 243 year anniversary since the USA crashed out of the British Empire without a deal.