The 0.2%

[Varche]

I am not so sure about losing votes.

For sure there will be some with principles that will switch but most people are creatures of habit and very forgiving.  Throw a few sweeteners in like free tv licence, bus pass, tax threshold increase, write off student loan and people forget the foul ups in the last few years.

[Doctor Gollum]

I am not so sure about losing votes.

For sure there will be some with principles that will switch but most people are creatures of habit and very forgiving.  Throw a few sweeteners in like free tv licence, bus pass, tax threshold increase, write off student loan debt and people forget the foul ups in the last few years.

This will never happen as no one could afford to cover it.

[Varche]

well it was just an example. the point is people are very forgiving and easily seduced by the next offer

[Olympia5776]

 I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

[STEMO]

I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

Next you'll be telling us that Len McCluskey is running the Labour Party through Momentum. 

[Nick W]

I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.

[Doctor Gollum]

I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still own and fund the party.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I am not so sure about losing votes.

For sure there will be some with principles that will switch but most people are creatures of habit and very forgiving.  Throw a few sweeteners in like free tv licence, bus pass, tax threshold increase, write off student loan debt and people forget the foul ups in the last few years.

This will never happen as no one could afford to cover it.

When has that ever deterred the Labour party? 

[Raeturbo]

There's no fool like an old fool

[Olympia5776]

I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.

Disturbing in the fact that after more than three years of watching the Labour party avoid commitment to any fully fledged policy on our departure they publicly announce their direction and intention as soon as the edict was e mailed to them from their fund managers.
I, perhaps more than you think , understand the history and origins of the Labour party movement but my point was/is that the haste in which the new policy was announced and adopted makes the current cabal at Labours top table look ĺike the faces of faceless men.
I think it shows the turmoil within Labour because even any young newly qualified PR spin doctor would have cautioned that haste to disguise the obvious order to jump, higher.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.

Disturbing in the fact that after more than three years of watching the Labour party avoid commitment to any fully fledged policy on our departure they publicly announce their direction and intention as soon as the edict was e mailed to them from their fund managers.
I, perhaps more than you think , understand the history and origins of the Labour party movement but my point was/is that the haste in which the new policy was announced and adopted makes the current cabal at Labours top table look ĺike the faces of faceless men.
I think it shows the turmoil within Labour because even any young newly qualified PR spin doctor would have cautioned that haste to disguise the obvious order to jump, higher.

All the noisy cyber-lefties would be screaming blue murder if the Tories changed a signature policy so quickly after being lent on by big business. 

[Nick W]

All the noisy cyber-lefties would be screaming blue murder if the Tories changed a signature policy so quickly after being lent on by big business. 

lefties know that they have to wait until they've left office before receiving their bung. You know, £10million fhnding of your own institute, whatever that's supposed to be

[STEMO]

.......who will decide who the next PM will be were on the television last night. I don't think I've seen so many doddery old farts in one place at the same time (apart from on OOF)

Average age 146 years. I'm pretty sure Albs was among them.

Jonathan Pie seems to think both candidates would make excellent PM's:

https://youtu.be/R-CIggoU4VM

[Rods2]

0.2% voting is still 0.2% more than voted in the new appointed Brussels' dictatorship leaders. On Twitter it is strange that all those that have pointed out that only a small percentage of Tory party members vote for our next PM, you would think that if they were so concerned about democracy the EU appointments would have raised more than their deafening silence.

Civilizations are usually destroyed through invasion, getting elected & pulling up the democracy drawbridge to create your dictatorship (Germany, Venezuela, Russia & Turkey are examples) or political paralysis & destruction by a combination of vested interests & suversion from within. It looks like the latter two will destroy all Western civilization over the next decade, when we will all become much, much poorer & have little freedom as the new authoritarian dictators steal the majority of the countries wealth as they have in Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, China, Ukraine & other countries.

You will still get meaningless elections where it gives dictators a thin veil of legitimacy in their own minds as they steal, plunder & kill.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.

Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.

And yesterdays decision cut the last ties with the working class people they were both formed to represent, in favour of the middle class liberal left, educated stupid, who discuss the plight of such people, remotely, in their multi million pound houses in Islington and similar Metropolitan areas. 
The north of England is a far off foreign country to these people, and I suspect that it soon will become a lot more foreign to them.