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Started by zirk, 20 September 2019, 15:01:20

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Doctor Gollum

Quote from: Varche on 20 September 2019, 17:12:57
Trump and the USA are moving to ban flavoured vapes.

Is the banning maybe to do with it being easy to use vaping for addictive drug intake?
Not likely, much of the US is moving towards varying degrees of cannabis legalisation  ;)
Onanists always think outside the box.

zirk

Quote from: Rods2 on 20 September 2019, 20:10:26
Quote from: Varche on 20 September 2019, 17:12:57
Trump and the USA are moving to ban flavoured vapes.

Is the banning maybe to do with it being easy to use vaping for addictive drug intake?

Some of the unregulated flavourings are causing rapid respiratory failure in the US (we are taking 1000s of cases) and quite a few deaths, hence the rapid decision to ban them. I don't disagree with this ban. Anybody that does vape in in uncharted territory on the long term health implications as they haven't been around long enough for anybody to know. :o
So by Banning the Regulated stuff from the Regulated Suppliers you then forcing Peeps to buy from unregulated Black Market suppliers.   :(

zirk

Quote from: STEMO on 21 September 2019, 20:48:29
Smoking kills you and, apparently, vaping kills you. Neither is far worse than the other.
What a ridiculous Statement Stemo, there miles apart in terms of Heath damage.  ::)

Think the NHS and BMA will dissagree with you on that one.  ;)

STEMO

Quote from: zirk on 22 September 2019, 16:30:47
Quote from: STEMO on 21 September 2019, 20:48:29
Smoking kills you and, apparently, vaping kills you. Neither is far worse than the other.
What a ridiculous Statement Stemo, there miles apart in terms of Heath damage.  ::)

Think the NHS and BMA will dissagree with you on that one.  ;)
According to the report from the US, vaping is killing people. That will do for me.
Unless you know better  ::)


zirk

Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 22 September 2019, 01:23:27
Now that is what concerns me, the effects on all of us, and our children, who don't smoke breathing in the vapours. So, on balance, until the risks are properly assessed, vaping anywhere in public should be banned. That should be a must. :y

More info here Lizzie on a UK Govt. Website if youn want to have a read.  ;)

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/20/clearing-up-some-myths-around-e-cigarettes/

Lizzie Zoom

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Quote from: zirk on 22 September 2019, 16:36:30
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 22 September 2019, 01:23:27
Now that is what concerns me, the effects on all of us, and our children, who don't smoke breathing in the vapours. So, on balance, until the risks are properly assessed, vaping anywhere in public should be banned. That should be a must. :y

More info here Lizzie on a UK Govt. Website if youn want to have a read.  ;)

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/20/clearing-up-some-myths-around-e-cigarettes/

Thanks Zirk :y

The problem with all that is people of our age group remember complete denials, from even highly qualified doctors, back in the 1950's that smoking was bad for you, and in fact they suggested strongly (some paid by the tobacco companies) that it could do you a power of good! :o :o

Many adults of the time, including my parents, just carried on smoking regardless, until the 1960's when it was becoming obvious that the practice was killing many, many people.  Rather like the situation regarding asbestos, all the experts kept saying all is fine, any reports to the contrary are just scaremongering.......................!!!

So, we await further updates from the learned profession, although it does not worry me as I have never, and will never, smoke anything! ::) ::) ;)

zirk

Quote from: STEMO on 22 September 2019, 16:32:08
According to the report from the US, vaping is killing people. That will do for me.
Unless you know better  ::)
You really do surprise me Steve, you keep quoting News Stuff from the USA, I've always considered you as an Intelligent individual.  ::)  :-*

Nick W

Deliberately inhaling the smoke of burning leaves isn't an intelligent thing to do; you only need to look at soot stains for a reason.


Similarly, deliberately inhaling finely atomised, unspecified unregulated chemicals isn't a good idea.