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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

In my youth I seem to recall the average family car having 13 inch wheels.

[STEMO]

In my youth I seem to recall the average family car having 13 inch wheels.

Yeah, and about 4 inches wide.....and never got stuck in the snow.

[henryd]

All motor manufacturer's should be compelled, by law, to supply a full size or space saver spare free of charge. It is ridiculous that a 'spare' is seen as an optional extra these days.

I suggest we start by stringing the head of GM and Ford up by their balls, as an example to others.

trouble is that some cars no longer have room to store one even you buy one as the space has often been taken up with an Adblue tank

or that there simply isn't room for the massive diameter of modern wheel/tyre combinations. Having a collapsible spare like some Mercs, NSXs etc doesn't help, because there still isn't room for the wheel you removed. Even the original XC90 came with a bag to cover the dirty removed wheel in the boot as it doesn't fit the cradle under the car. XC90s with the factory bodykit and tacky exhausts don't have the cradle.

Not so good once age hardened rubber and very difficult to inflate with the pisspot compressor supplied,don't ask how I know

[Nick W]

All motor manufacturer's should be compelled, by law, to supply a full size or space saver spare free of charge. It is ridiculous that a 'spare' is seen as an optional extra these days.

I suggest we start by stringing the head of GM and Ford up by their balls, as an example to others.

trouble is that some cars no longer have room to store one even you buy one as the space has often been taken up with an Adblue tank

or that there simply isn't room for the massive diameter of modern wheel/tyre combinations. Having a collapsible spare like some Mercs, NSXs etc doesn't help, because there still isn't room for the wheel you removed. Even the original XC90 came with a bag to cover the dirty removed wheel in the boot as it doesn't fit the cradle under the car. XC90s with the factory bodykit and tacky exhausts don't have the cradle.

Not so good once age hardened rubber and very difficult to inflate with the pisspot compressor supplied,don't ask how I know

I've fitted several, and always been impressed by how effective the compressors were. Although starting the inflation before doing anything else is a good idea.


Age hardened rubber is one of several reasons why I've refused to fit spare wheels.

[henryd]

All motor manufacturer's should be compelled, by law, to supply a full size or space saver spare free of charge. It is ridiculous that a 'spare' is seen as an optional extra these days.

I suggest we start by stringing the head of GM and Ford up by their balls, as an example to others.

trouble is that some cars no longer have room to store one even you buy one as the space has often been taken up with an Adblue tank

or that there simply isn't room for the massive diameter of modern wheel/tyre combinations. Having a collapsible spare like some Mercs, NSXs etc doesn't help, because there still isn't room for the wheel you removed. Even the original XC90 came with a bag to cover the dirty removed wheel in the boot as it doesn't fit the cradle under the car. XC90s with the factory bodykit and tacky exhausts don't have the cradle.

Not so good once age hardened rubber and very difficult to inflate with the pisspot compressor supplied,don't ask how I know

I've fitted several, and always been impressed by how effective the compressors were. Although starting the inflation before doing anything else is a good idea.


Age hardened rubber is one of several reasons why I've refused to fit spare wheels.

My Touareg spare had never been used and had dropped off the bead hence the issue inflating, of course I didn't know this until I needed the bloody thing

[STEMO]

All motor manufacturer's should be compelled, by law, to supply a full size or space saver spare free of charge. It is ridiculous that a 'spare' is seen as an optional extra these days.

I suggest we start by stringing the head of GM and Ford up by their balls, as an example to others.

trouble is that some cars no longer have room to store one even you buy one as the space has often been taken up with an Adblue tank

or that there simply isn't room for the massive diameter of modern wheel/tyre combinations. Having a collapsible spare like some Mercs, NSXs etc doesn't help, because there still isn't room for the wheel you removed. Even the original XC90 came with a bag to cover the dirty removed wheel in the boot as it doesn't fit the cradle under the car. XC90s with the factory bodykit and tacky exhausts don't have the cradle.

Not so good once age hardened rubber and very difficult to inflate with the pisspot compressor supplied,don't ask how I know

I've fitted several, and always been impressed by how effective the compressors were. Although starting the inflation before doing anything else is a good idea.


Age hardened rubber is one of several reasons why I've refused to fit spare wheels.

My Touareg spare had never been used and had dropped off the bead hence the issue inflating, of course I didn't know this until I needed the bloody thing

Is there no mention of these tyres in routine maintenance?

[Rangie]

Always thought it's a damn silly idea not to provide a spare wheel, Subaru has a full size one & the Range Rover was supplied with a full size matching alloy ( brand new ) but has a space saver slung beneath.

[STEMO]

I wonder what % of RAC/AA call outs are for flat tyres.

[Rangie]

I wonder what % of RAC/AA call outs are for flat tyres.

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Quite high I would think , a lot of folk would have no idea how to change a wheel if they were fortunate enough to have one.

[STEMO]

I wonder what % of RAC/AA call outs are for flat tyres.

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Quite high I would think , a lot of folk would have no idea how to change a wheel if they were fortunate enough to have one.

Quite, but I meant the increase in call outs since a bottle of glue was considered a reliable alternative to an actual tyre. Should have made myself more clear.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I doubt many women would have the physical strength to undo the wheel nuts....and even less inclination to try.

[STEMO]

I doubt many women would have the physical strength to undo the wheel nuts....and even less inclination to try.

Especially if their tyres had been replaced at Kwikfit or the like.

[TheBoy]

The Battlebus (full sized, though steel rim) spare has a date stamp from 2001 .  I certainly don't fancy driving on it, even in an emergency, as its cracking.

Though do I buy a black and round, or a decent tyre. Only about £12 difference, so a no brainer really.  All assuming the steel wheel isn't classed as too corroded.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I wonder what % of RAC/AA call outs are for flat tyres.

I think I heard that the AA/RAC were setting up fleets of dedicated tyre vans, with puncture repair facilities and a small range of common tyres on board? 

[TheBoy]

I wonder what % of RAC/AA call outs are for flat tyres.

I think I heard that the AA/RAC were setting up fleets of dedicated tyre vans, with puncture repair facilities and a small range of common tyres on board? 

As is my MOT man, though he says its not all down to no spare wheels, but ineptness of modern snowflakes.