Trying to get Broadband

[TheBoy]

BT Insist no downtime - however I am currently running turbo ISDN as my usual ISP is rubbish so I have connected twice to UKONLINE PAYG so am getting 128kbps

I think you'll find all ISPs can offer this 'no downtime' type offer - its a standard BT Wholesale product to migrate from ISDN to BB.  It's not 'no downtime' but usually 'same day' so you can expect a couple of hours outage...

[MikeDundee]

BT Insist no downtime - however I am currently running turbo ISDN as my usual ISP is rubbish so I have connected twice to UKONLINE PAYG so am getting 128kbps

I think you'll find all ISPs can offer this 'no downtime' type offer - its a standard BT Wholesale product to migrate from ISDN to BB.  It's not 'no downtime' but usually 'same day' so you can expect a couple of hours outage...

I am just n normal connection no BB, have tried with NTL, keep saying in area, OK I'll have it been twice now and it still bloody doesnt work , back to normal standrad connection. Can be a bit slow at times but the job gets done for what I use it for

[Taxi_Driver]

I am suprised i can get 1M ADSL to be honest....i know it wont go to 2M....even tho im paying for 2M  

Ive got overground phone line from telegraph pole and remember a few years ago i wanted a 2nd phone installed......so duly paid BT iirc £130 for a new phone line.....out came BT engineer, who decided to fit what i think he called a 'duplexer'......one installed in my house and another fitted in the exchange.....so one phone cable but getting 2 lines of it....job done....few days later i discovered if one line was busy....my fax machine connected on the other wouldnt work....so after phone call to BT....and them trying to suggest i dont use both at the same time!   Hello!! but thats why i had two lines installed! Engineer came back and after about 2 days messing about......decided to rip out the 'duplexer' and run another cable from the telegraph pole......that fixed the problem.

But i guess it was too much noise on the line and the added 'traffic' that one cable couldnt cope!

[TheBoy]

I am suprised i can get 1M ADSL to be honest....i know it wont go to 2M....even tho im paying for 2M  

Ive got overground phone line from telegraph pole and remember a few years ago i wanted a 2nd phone installed......so duly paid BT iirc £130 for a new phone line.....out came BT engineer, who decided to fit what i think he called a 'duplexer'......one installed in my house and another fitted in the exchange.....so one phone cable but getting 2 lines of it....job done....few days later i discovered if one line was busy....my fax machine connected on the other wouldnt work....so after phone call to BT....and them trying to suggest i dont use both at the same time!   Hello!! but thats why i had two lines installed! Engineer came back and after about 2 days messing about......decided to rip out the 'duplexer' and run another cable from the telegraph pole......that fixed the problem.

But i guess it was too much noise on the line and the added 'traffic' that one cable couldnt cope!

Sounds like they gave you a WB900 to use one pair of wires for 2 lines. Awful equipment, internal batteries always died (designed in a time when we didn't use phones so much). So bad, that they were not allowed to fit the carrier line (the one with the box) on certain lines such as business, doctors etc (not that that ever stopped them). BT stopped fitting WB900 units about 15yrs ago, and fitted DACS instead, which were much better (and a little more modem friendly).

[Marks DTM Calib]

I am suprised i can get 1M ADSL to be honest....i know it wont go to 2M....even tho im paying for 2M  

Ive got overground phone line from telegraph pole and remember a few years ago i wanted a 2nd phone installed......so duly paid BT iirc £130 for a new phone line.....out came BT engineer, who decided to fit what i think he called a 'duplexer'......one installed in my house and another fitted in the exchange.....so one phone cable but getting 2 lines of it....job done....few days later i discovered if one line was busy....my fax machine connected on the other wouldnt work....so after phone call to BT....and them trying to suggest i dont use both at the same time!   Hello!! but thats why i had two lines installed! Engineer came back and after about 2 days messing about......decided to rip out the 'duplexer' and run another cable from the telegraph pole......that fixed the problem.

But i guess it was too much noise on the line and the added 'traffic' that one cable couldnt cope!

What do you expect....there not engineers.....

[Taxi_Driver]

I am suprised i can get 1M ADSL to be honest....i know it wont go to 2M....even tho im paying for 2M  

Ive got overground phone line from telegraph pole and remember a few years ago i wanted a 2nd phone installed......so duly paid BT iirc £130 for a new phone line.....out came BT engineer, who decided to fit what i think he called a 'duplexer'......one installed in my house and another fitted in the exchange.....so one phone cable but getting 2 lines of it....job done....few days later i discovered if one line was busy....my fax machine connected on the other wouldnt work....so after phone call to BT....and them trying to suggest i dont use both at the same time!   Hello!! but thats why i had two lines installed! Engineer came back and after about 2 days messing about......decided to rip out the 'duplexer' and run another cable from the telegraph pole......that fixed the problem.

But i guess it was too much noise on the line and the added 'traffic' that one cable couldnt cope!

Sounds like they gave you a WB900 to use one pair of wires for 2 lines. Awful equipment, internal batteries always died (designed in a time when we didn't use phones so much). So bad, that they were not allowed to fit the carrier line (the one with the box) on certain lines such as business, doctors etc (not that that ever stopped them). BT stopped fitting WB900 units about 15yrs ago, and fitted DACS instead, which were much better (and a little more modem friendly).

Actually now u mention DACS.....im pretty certain it was that they fitted originaly....it was only max ten years ago.... :-/

[Martin_1962]

Onetel still crap - so back to PAYG UKOnLine 2 lines is use

I'm paying 2p a minute plus VAT

[Ken T]

we are using Freedom 2 Surf there is a supposed download limit but the conter seems not to move which is kind of handy, considering the number of movies my son watches!. It/they have been very good for several years, apart from recently when the line started droping out after 20mins or so. It took 1hr30mins to get thro to helpline, and they said they would get BT to do a line test. BT said, 'obviously line noise' and lowered our line rate to 1meg. However the problem persisted. I eventually discovered that the problem was I had recently added a wireless phone, Philips all CE approved, and had run an extention cable beside the BT phone line. I rerouted it but found that even 2 ft of parallel cable was enough to upset the broadband. I now have the phone cable at right angles to the BT line and it works fine. With respect, expecting unscreened phone cables to work at all with these sort of download speeds is on a wing and a prayer.  Way back in the Radar industry, signals of a similar bandwidth were sent differentially down screened cable, lines terminated correctly, with expensive high quality connectors. To expect the simple insulation displacement connectors and unscreened cable to work at these kind of speeds is........ well lets just say I am amazed it works as well as it does.  

[JohnM]

... With respect, expecting unscreened phone cables to work at all with these sort of download speeds is on a wing and a prayer...
........ well lets just say I am amazed it works as well as it does.  

That'll be a balanced (hopefully) pair then, nothing wrong with that.  Indeed you can run much higher speeds than that if you do right.  
But I do think it does work on a wing and a lots of praying sometimes.

[supermop]

If you can get NTL in your area, please go for them.

I don't often say this about NTL, but here goes... Best cable ISP ever.

[Martin_1962]

If you can get NTL in your area, please go for them.

I don't often say this about NTL, but here goes... Best cable ISP ever.

Cable TV - novel idea!!

[supermop]

I wont go any further than to say they're a good ISP

Their TV services are crap, however.

[Martin_1962]

I wont go any further than to say they're a good ISP

Their TV services are crap, however.

Well for TV I have three choices - analogue with ghosting, Satellite if I can get a dish high enough and want to spend a fortune, or Digital - guess which I have!

Yes digital TV been through ONDigital, and all of Freeview

[supermop]

In that case, cable sounds like a good idea for you. TV is rubbish, but it beats freeview for choice, and it has on demand services.

[Martin_1962]

In that case, cable sounds like a good idea for you. TV is rubbish, but it beats freeview for choice, and it has on demand services.

No new cable TV systems have been done for ages, which is why the companies are in trouble, Worcester was supposed to get CTV about 8 - 10 years ago - but nothing