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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #150 on: Yesterday at 11:03:49 »

And according to the ffluid interface, it's now done 6592.80 m of filament. Unclear if that's the incoming 1.75mm filament or the distance the head has moved when extruding at 0.4mm.  I'll do a test print and try to work it out
That appears to be incoming 1.75mm, rather than the 0.4mm extruded.  Which seems about right, as I've probably run 20 1kg reels through it, and its around 325-350m per spool....
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #151 on: Yesterday at 11:25:10 »

TBH it's not a *need* at all. I'm certain that with a new hot end fan (to cure an annoying buzz on startup that goes away after c1min) and some fettling the ender 3 would soldier on no issue, its definitely more of a want. So my *want* factors

Want always = NEED ;D


- not fart-arsing around with a USB/micro SD card any more when I want to print (biggest want)
Virtually all have remote printing now, either via cloud or via LAN, or both.  Creality Flagship series do both.  I do personally seem to get a lot of occasions when the printer seems offline on the LAN, but still online on Cloud, which I think is due to the Wifi briefly disconnecting.  I keep meaning to try a cat5 instead, as I do live in a very, very hostile WiFi area.

- filament enclosure so that I can be lazy during machine down time and not bother removing and storing reels of filament properly.
CFS can do that, *BUT* it's dried via desiccant. I use desiccant crystal that can be reactivated, which I have to pop them in the microwave every week, or more often if I open the CF too regularly to swap spools.

- enclosure to reduce noise - it shares swmbo's office and it's annoying enough to her that I don't print while she's working - which definitely slows production
K1 Max was noisy, I think the way the idea fan was mounting on a perspex side. K2 is not silent, but seems les intrusive *except* nozzle wiping and CFS feed/retract.  Mine is in the box room office I work from (as was the K1, the brilliantly named Artillery Sidewinder X1, and the very noisy Anet)

- enclosure to stabilize temps - we don't heat that room at night so ambient temps can drop to mid-to-low teens this time of year which I wonder if could be affecting reliability
Enclosures also help with other filaments such as ABS. My office stays fairly warm due to all the other shite running, so even recently, hasn't gone under 15C.  K1 has fan to cool the chamber, K2 has an active heater as well.  In both cases, you will need to print a lid riser, and I'd recommend one with vents that can be opened and closed, leaving open for long PLA prints, esp on warm days.

- direct drive and enclosure to allow me to confidently venture beyond pla. Not sure what for yet, but I'm sure ideas will present themselves, just like they did when I got the ender 3.
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- better quality to allow me to print scale models - very low level want as I suspect the money spent to improve quality would more than buy a cheapish resin printer that would give vastly superior results.
If you are talking about models to print and paint and display, resin is definitely the way to go.

- ability to 'hot swap' reels of filament when one runs out - an annoyance on larger prints as the pause and swap method on the ender 3 is seriously hot and miss and can easily wreck a print.
CFS does this automatically *IF* the filament is the identical (brand, model and colour). Upon installing a reel, you tell the printer what filament it is and its colour. Or for RFID filaments, it reads it itself. In both cases, it can only do this *BEFORE* a print is started, not during.  I use this all the time - if a spool is looking low, I chuck in another, so it can use up the empty one first, then change to the full one.

- multi filament printing - very very low level want. My son will think it's the coolest thing in the world for about 90s before carrying on with his day.
Do some research on K2 pooping, and the amount it generates.  You will need to print either a poop bin or poop chute with bin.  Plenty of models available, or design yourself.  Be aware that as it changes filament, that causes a CF retraction and CFS feed (obviously), and several nozzle wipes (number seems to depend on how big a colour change), which do make a lot of noise.

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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #152 on: Yesterday at 11:26:04 »

Oh, and CFS needs reels to be a set size - read specs.  And ideally plastic spools, although it can work with cardboard, as long as the edges are good.
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #153 on: Today at 10:59:43 »

As I was doing a simple 2 colour print...

The amount of waste printing the box sat on the keyboard. This is a simple 2 colour print, so only changes filament one per layer (that has 2 colours on if)

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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #154 on: Today at 12:03:19 »

As I was doing a simple 2 colour print...

The amount of waste printing the box sat on the keyboard. This is a simple 2 colour print, so only changes filament one per layer (that has 2 colours on if)


Melt it down and use it again. And warn the printer you're going to do that every time until it eats all of it's dinner  ;D
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #155 on: Today at 14:01:09 »

As I was doing a simple 2 colour print...

The amount of waste printing the box sat on the keyboard. This is a simple 2 colour print, so only changes filament one per layer (that has 2 colours on if)



Well that's a crap-tonne of waste for a single print! I hope you were *really* happy with those DJI letters  ;D

Once I'm home this evening I will get on and order the K2, not the pro or plus versions as they are getting on for double the price and not something I can justify at this point. Or rather, I'd rather have the K2 and a little mid tier resin printer for the same money  >:D.

Out of interest did you design your own riser and/or sh!t bin for yours? I've had a look online and most everything K2 relates seems to be for the plus, with some for the pro and little for the straight K2.

I rather like this one, but being tighter than a duck's ar$e I don't like the idea of paying for the design. https://www.crealitycloud.com/model-detail/d3p-riser-for-k2?source=5

Oh, and CFS needs reels to be a set size - read specs.  And ideally plastic spools, although it can work with cardboard, as long as the edges are good.

I can imagine that I will need to work my way through the various toss filaments swmbo and the lad have selected (based solely on appearance nvm the lousy chinesium branding and poor print performance!) before I can get to using the cfs
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #156 on: Today at 14:10:18 »

Also, do you use any of the 'hyper' filaments Creality bang on about, or are they just marketing toss?
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #157 on: Today at 14:19:47 »

Well that's a crap-tonne of waste for a single print! I hope you were *really* happy with those DJI letters  ;D
The model was still in the printer's memory, so I did it just to prove a point, and then promptly put the model with the waste in the big plastic bin on wheels ;D

Once I'm home this evening I will get on and order the K2, not the pro or plus versions as they are getting on for double the price and not something I can justify at this point. Or rather, I'd rather have the K2 and a little mid tier resin printer for the same money  >:D.
Don't let me talk you out of the Bambu - the cloud thing turned me off at the time, so went Creality instead.  I would talk you out of the K1, as doesn't make sense to buy the older one.

Creality UK have a K2 Plus with a single CFS on ebay for under a grand today, open box never used.  In my experience of Creality, it will be in a sealed box.

Out of interest did you design your own riser and/or sh!t bin for yours? I've had a look online and most everything K2 relates seems to be for the plus, with some for the pro and little for the straight K2.

I rather like this one, but being tighter than a duck's ar$e I don't like the idea of paying for the design. https://www.crealitycloud.com/model-detail/d3p-riser-for-k2?source=5
My riser came off Printables from memory.  I had looked at that one you linked to - well, the Plus version - but refused point blank to "pay" for it.  Additionally, it might make the CFS difficult to access properly, unless you are taller than tunnie.  Granted the standard K2 might be lower than K2 Plus.  Lemme grab a photo of my setup, as I really struggle to get the desiccant trays in and out of my top CFS.

My shit bin is my own design, as strangely I need mine on the back but to nature of room layout, and all the ones I could find for rear were rubbish - either needing magnets, or too small or blocking the fans/vents.

Oh, and CFS needs reels to be a set size - read specs.  And ideally plastic spools, although it can work with cardboard, as long as the edges are good.
I can imagine that I will need to work my way through the various toss filaments swmbo and the lad have selected (based solely on appearance nvm the lousy chinesium branding and poor print performance!) before I can get to using the cfs
The Creality printers with CFS attached is a pain to use side spool, as you have to disconnect the tubing going to printer.  You sorta can use a spare inlet in the 4 in 1 buffer, but you need to remember to remove the filament afterwards.  For common small spools, like SUNLU, people have made spool adapters to use with CFS.
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #158 on: Today at 14:21:34 »

Also, do you use any of the 'hyper' filaments Creality bang on about, or are they just marketing toss?
I pretty much use the RFID variants of Hyper PLA, yes.  I get it when its on offer, and tend to buy in bulk.  10 reels arrived last week for less than a tenner a reel.

And RFID is convenient in CFS, saves entering the info manually ;D
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #159 on: Today at 14:22:58 »

Oh, and use Creality's Soleyin for test prints, as when that is on offer properly, it works out about £40 for 6 spools ;D

The white, however, is brilliantly coloured, but not the easiest to print.
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Re: 3D Printer Chat
« Reply #160 on: Today at 14:31:19 »

As promised, my setup. Yes, that space to left of top CFS is reserved for another when I can get one at a good price - I ain't paying £220 for one!




And I do have a filament fettish, this is my unopened pile, and doesn't show the 24 part used spools on the shelves....

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« Reply #161 on: Today at 21:53:22 »

Wow, your problem hobby is significantly more advanced than mine! I keep all my spooks in a 2 drawer filing cabinet! If that's all for home use, you must have just about everything 3d printed!

I think just the K2 and CFS will do me for now! Plus some filament obviously, and maybe a few other bits and pieces.  ;D
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