Huawei

[STEMO]

As for the expense of ripping out existing equipment, Boris should have told Donald that was the cost of compliance, and the US would have to pay.

[Raeturbo]

Bring back the pigeon and the baked bean cans and string, very secure!

[Doctor Gollum]

Bring back the pigeon and the baked bean cans and string, very secure!

Not really... Pigeons respond to food, and tapping into the string requires more string and another can

[Raeturbo]

That's just smoke and mirrors

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

We will find out in the future, if the Chinese are giving trouble such as we feel the neeed to send a couple of ships to the south China sea.
If this coincides with all our interweb going down then we got it badly wrong.

[aaronjb]

This 'spying' lark. Surely state backed hackers could, more or less, get into any system they chose to? I'm not very techie but, as far as I can see, the only really secure system would be like an intranet thingy, totally independent of the www.

Yes, that. This is all smoke and mirrors (IMHO, as someone very much in that career).. for example the NSA recently "made Microsoft aware" of a "previously unknown" vulnerability (a huge one) - nobody with a brain thinks that they found it and then told Microsoft; they found it, used it, realised an enemy was using it and then told Microsoft, only to stop their adversaries using the same exploit.

Apart from that, the easiest way into any system is the soft fleshy things that sit at the keyboard...

[Viral_Jim]

Apart from that, the easiest way into any system is the soft fleshy things that sit at the keyboard...

This.

Why bother hacking when the judicious application of hookers/rent boys/drugs/money/violence will get you the same result far more easily. 

[Nick W]

Apart from that, the easiest way into any system is the soft fleshy things that sit at the keyboard...

This.

Why bother hacking when the judicious application of hookers/rent boys/drugs/money/violence will get you the same result far more easily. 

people's stupidity is more reliable than their vices. And it's free.

[aaronjb]

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I was speaking to the financial director of a global PLC, which has a business in China, about Huawei yesterday.
He told me that when his colleagues in China feel ok to speak candidly, they assure him that all our worst fears, and some more we haven't thought of yet, are fully justified.
They cant believe our Govt has allowed the company to become involved in any way, with out future communications.
Coming from such a highly intelligent, mild mannered, thoughtful man, I found it quite worrying.

[aaronjb]

How do you all feel about the CIA owning crypto technology? Because they've been able to eavesdrop on a great deal of encrypted communications for decades seeing as they secretly owned one of the largest cryptography providers

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I read about that yesterday. A very interesting story. I suppose, we accept it more readily from the Yanks because they are usually on our side (or supposed to be) when things get a bit difficult.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I read about that yesterday. A very interesting story. I suppose, we accept it more readily from the Yanks because they are usually on our side (or supposed to be) when things get a bit difficult.

And that is the major difference. The USA is a democratic (as best as it can be) country that we, and everyone else in the West totally relies on to provide military superiority over those that could do threaten our way of life.

I know who I would sooner have eavesdrop over me out of the choice of USA or China!

Biris is making a grave error of judgement by even considering this Chinese company to provide any of our communication system.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think Boris Johnson Dominic Cummings has a cunning plan! 

The Govt was between a rock and a hard place on this one. Go with Huawei and anger the Yanks or ban Huawei and anger the Chinese. 

They've given Huawei the green light in the expectation that there will be a Tory rebellion and it won't get past Parliament and then Boris can turn to the Chinese govt and say " Hey sorry about that, but that's democracy for you!"

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

There may be a small rebellion but I cant see it being enough to overturn it.