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« on: 17 August 2020, 16:56:46 »

So using a Omega est as a donner I have been building this 51 Austin, thought you might like a look as we all like photos!!
Smart car axle tube with Astra Watts linkage onto Omega rear hubs . Bit tight , intake will have to sit over top of engine so need some rams horn pipes making .
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« Reply #1 on: 17 August 2020, 18:05:54 »

Pictures need resizing.
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« Reply #2 on: 18 August 2020, 15:00:46 »

yes!!! will see what this computer numpty can do.
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« Reply #3 on: 18 August 2020, 15:05:28 »

Interesting project  :y
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« Reply #4 on: 18 August 2020, 15:08:13 »

Should make a nice ride with abs , air suspension .
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« Reply #5 on: 18 August 2020, 15:14:52 »

I do like it.


Have a picture of an X30XE and manual gearbox in an MGB:









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« Reply #6 on: 19 August 2020, 14:13:15 »

Can't see many jubilee clips in that engine bay....only 2 in fact..... :D
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« Reply #7 on: 19 August 2020, 17:10:45 »

yes!!! will see what this computer numpty can do.

Respect to you for doing all that (that some claim us ladies cannot do!!!!! ::) ::) ::) :P :P)

My first car was an 1960 Austin A40, Farina bodied, so I can just imagine what I could have done with that having the Omega parts, and 3.2 engine, available to me today!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Knowing what condition my A40's chassis was then ( rotted and separated from the body!!) will you have to strengthen it for the Omega engine in addition to the welding I can see you have done all ready? ??? ???

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« Reply #8 on: 19 August 2020, 17:15:00 »

Can't see many jubilee clips in that engine bay....only 2 in fact..... :D


I didn't assemble it.


Some of those spring clamps have never been off the engine since I bought it.




Every heater hose is attached with Jubilees....
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« Reply #9 on: 19 August 2020, 19:04:44 »

This is a 1951 Devon so has a separate chassis, the A40 Farina was a rebodied A35 of unitary construction . Old enough to have worked on these when apprentice.   
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« Reply #10 on: 19 August 2020, 21:21:56 »

Can't see many jubilee clips in that engine bay....only 2 in fact..... :D


I didn't assemble it.


Some of those spring clamps have never been off the engine since I bought it.




Every heater hose is attached with Jubilees....

That's controversial!  :o  ::)  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 19 August 2020, 21:35:09 »

Can't see many jubilee clips in that engine bay....only 2 in fact..... :D


I didn't assemble it.


Some of those spring clamps have never been off the engine since I bought it.




Every heater hose is attached with Jubilees....

That's controversial!  :o ::) ;D


The heater, valve and their plumbing are stock MGB.  One of the engine connections is stock X30. The other is on the new water rail, sized to fit the old hose and placed where we needed it to be. That makes one connection that is 'corrupted' by the Jubilee clamp; the others are correct ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 20 August 2020, 08:31:50 »

Think I can just get away without moding water rail , just enough room to get a 90 bend  on to clear inner wing. Problem I have is not enough room to fit intake between rad and engine. Only solution I can think is some "rams horn" pipes with intake sat over top of engine .
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« Reply #13 on: 20 August 2020, 09:53:33 »

This is a 1951 Devon so has a separate chassis, the A40 Farina was a rebodied A35 of unitary construction . Old enough to have worked on these when apprentice.

Impressive! 8) 8) :y :y

I loved working on my A40, but I had to just to keep it going!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 20 August 2020, 10:25:23 »

Think I can just get away without moding water rail , just enough room to get a 90 bend  on to clear inner wing. Problem I have is not enough room to fit intake between rad and engine. Only solution I can think is some "rams horn" pipes with intake sat over top of engine .

Lose the multirams, no need for ducting between the rad and engine then. You could also consider a 2.5/early 3.0.plenum which is shorter
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« Reply #15 on: 20 August 2020, 16:16:59 »

Got told on here that it wont work without intake flap ------
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« Reply #16 on: 20 August 2020, 18:26:32 »

Got told on here that it wont work without intake flap ------


It will work, but not as well as if all the parts are fitted.


The MGB I posted has the multirams fitted, but we had to remake the lower box they, and the airflow meter sit on. This was for a number of reasons: the alternator is reverse mounted(only way we could get it in); the AFM would normally fit in that space; the box hung below the crossmember and wanted to be in the same place as the anti-rollbar. The new one is made of 75mm soil pipe and 90degree fittings, with the working parts of the AFM inserted on the passenger side. It all works with no issues.


So if you can find somewhere to put the multi-rams, the rest can be routed to it.
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« Reply #17 on: 20 August 2020, 18:43:27 »

The front multiram valve is about the same size as the throttle body, the rear one is part of the plenum, so no issues there  :y

Alternatively you can fit the plenum from the Vectra 3.2 as that doesn't have multirams... Everthing else is the same ;)
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« Reply #18 on: 20 August 2020, 22:20:45 »

Okay so what about the ECU .
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« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2020, 22:53:45 »

Just tie off the multiram plugs, possibly use a resistor in the plugs if the eml is a problem.
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« Reply #20 on: 21 August 2020, 12:26:08 »

Or, as a thought...

A pair of cone filters under each headlight, and place the front multiram just ahead of the throttle body with each intake feed following the shape of the radiator to the top...
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« Reply #21 on: 21 August 2020, 14:20:22 »

Or, as a thought...

A pair of cone filters under each headlight, and place the front multiram just ahead of the throttle body with each intake feed following the shape of the radiator to the top...

Won't work, the multiram positioning is critical as its placed at a tuned resonant length in the inlet. If you can't get it in the correct position then its best binned (1K resistor is the DTC check, there is one soldered on the back of the connector in the vac solenoid)  :y
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« Reply #22 on: 21 August 2020, 14:36:42 »

Or, as a thought...

A pair of cone filters under each headlight, and place the front multiram just ahead of the throttle body with each intake feed following the shape of the radiator to the top...

Won't work, the multiram positioning is critical as its placed at a tuned resonant length in the inlet. If you can't get it in the correct position then its best binned (1K resistor is the DTC check, there is one soldered on the back of the connector in the vac solenoid)  :y
There you are then :y
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« Reply #23 on: 21 August 2020, 17:22:09 »

cheers, have a plan.
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« Reply #24 on: 21 August 2020, 18:26:05 »

cheers, have a plan.
Stick a tail on it and call it Foxy  ;)
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« Reply #25 on: 26 October 2020, 08:22:54 »

used the Omega latches for doors, made some fancy handles. doing lots of body work, remade rear of chassis and incorporated the removable tow bar socket from the Omega. Need some bits that I should have kept , the bit inside the fuel tank that the pump/fuel sender fits to and looks like I have front window mech and rear door inner mounting (WTF) . No Omegas in scrappy (did get an Insignia fuel flap though) so stuck. Cant post in wanted as I need to make a million posts before allowed :( , Have the 4 alloys and steel spare up for grabs, reasonable tyres if somewhat old.
   
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« Reply #26 on: 26 October 2020, 08:27:49 »

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« Reply #27 on: 26 October 2020, 09:37:19 »

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« Reply #28 on: 18 November 2020, 21:50:08 »

Untangled the Omega wiring loom, had to see where it would run. Will have to replace the 2 big multi plugs with some smaller ones and take out stuff thats not used. Using Omega steering column as it fits spot on, trouble is the lads working for me at the time destroyed the column switch gear and its mountings and cut the plug off  removing the steering lock . Will be on the look out for some soon and a steering wheel hub for after market wheel.
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« Reply #29 on: 04 February 2021, 09:58:16 »

After weeks of work I have a box of redundant cables and plugs, replaced the 2 big multi connectors and "loomed " up into groups where I could. Strange way they run lots of cables to connection behind dash as in there are 2 ign live wires running all the way from behind dash to under bonnet and earths do the same. Next job is sorting rad fan relays as only one needed and removing A/C relay plugs.
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« Reply #30 on: 04 February 2021, 12:43:22 »

Multiple ground runs and supply will be part of the FMEA results for safety etc, this is also why certain modules will have two power supply pins and the like.  :y

Its also done to reduce EMC issues
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« Reply #31 on: 04 February 2021, 12:47:08 »

Multiple ground runs and supply will be part of the FMEA results for safety etc, this is also why certain modules will have two power supply pins and the like.  :y

Its also done to reduce EMC issues
I was just going to post that, but you beat me to it, young 'un.  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: 04 February 2021, 22:42:47 »

Multiple ground runs and supply will be part of the FMEA results for safety etc, this is also why certain modules will have two power supply pins and the like.  :y

Its also done to reduce EMC issues
I was just going to post that, but you beat me to it, young 'un.  ;D

You wish. 8)
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« Reply #33 on: 07 February 2021, 14:50:48 »

Sorted a lot out, shortened down some of the runs . Made the centre locking / window wiring into a separate loom , electric mirror and speaker  wires still to sort out/remove.
My next mission is to make a box for ECU or see if wires will go through bulkhead so ECU can be fitted inside, its all a bit tight( ooh matron)  but have to fit heater fan first.
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« Reply #34 on: 13 February 2021, 10:18:35 »

Not been to my lockup all week , too bloody cold!!! and cant afford 10 a day on fuel for space heater, should be okay tomorrow. Going to try test rig on centre locking --------------
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« Reply #35 on: 22 February 2021, 09:09:41 »

Why did Vauxhall/Opal use an odd as wheel stud size, sent me on a merry chase trying to find some 4.5 x 15 rims. Ended up getting some Weller smooth centres of the bay , NOS? custom made with Jag 4.75 in x 5 PCD so will have to get front hubs redrilled --------Good job I know a man that can.
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« Reply #36 on: 22 February 2021, 10:36:49 »

Why did Vauxhall/Opal use an odd as wheel stud size, sent me on a merry chase trying to find some 4.5 x 15 rims. Ended up getting some Weller smooth centres of the bay , NOS? custom made with Jag 4.75 in x 5 PCD so will have to get front hubs redrilled --------Good job I know a man that can.


Why do you think it's odd?


5x110 PCD isn't uncommon


and the M12x1.5 studs are European standard.
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« Reply #37 on: 23 February 2021, 19:34:08 »

IT is if you want 4.5 x 15 rims!! sorted now
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« Reply #38 on: 23 February 2021, 19:36:50 »

IT is if you want 4.5 x 15 rims!! sorted now
Why on earth would you want such skinny wheels with 200+ bhp :-\
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« Reply #39 on: 23 February 2021, 20:25:03 »

IT is if you want 4.5 x 15 rims!! sorted now
Why on earth would you want such skinny wheels with 200+ bhp :-\


There isn't a lot of space under a '50s Austin.


Another thing to remember is that old cars don't weigh very much, and wide tyres on light cars make for a horrible drive: you seem to have lots of grip, until suddenly there is none. And that's in the dry.

Ian's MGB is on stock 5x14 wheels with 185/70 Avons....
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« Reply #40 on: 23 February 2021, 21:09:08 »

Fair enough, it's easy to forget that wide wheels were once a novelty rather than the norm...

185/195 were considered to be the wider end of the spectrum for normal cars. Now 225 is pretty much the standard.
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« Reply #41 on: 25 February 2021, 09:26:27 »

To keep the ABS happy running 165 x15 front and 235/45 / 17s on rear on Saab rims. Have found some Weller smooth centre rims for front (NOS custom made!!) but Jag stud pattern 4.75 in PCD so looks like hubs will get machined.
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« Reply #42 on: 25 February 2021, 09:44:19 »

To keep the ABS happy running 165 x15 front and 235/45 / 17s on rear on Saab rims. Have found some Weller smooth centre rims for front (NOS custom made!!) but Jag stud pattern 4.75 in PCD so looks like hubs will get machined.


Why not modify the wheels? Fit the centres that match your suspension to the barrels that match the car.


Your mix of old and new wheel/tyre sizes is going to look very peculiar, have you considered using a 15 or 16" tyre on the back with a similar rolling radius to the 235/45 17? The stock Omega tyre sizes in those diameters would be a good start.
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« Reply #43 on: 11 March 2021, 07:21:16 »

The A40 Countryman from the early 50s was my first car. It was OK until the crankshaft broke :'(
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« Reply #44 on: 17 March 2021, 09:46:54 »

Well its coming along slowly, still doing body work. Had to alter the master/servo cylinder fitting angle to get clutch pedal to clear bulkhead with room for carpet and then rework the Omega pedals for angle. Needed some insulated mountings for the heater fan and in my box of wonders discovered a exhaust? bracket with GM on the rubbers, it might have come off the Omega. So a cut and weld and 2 bits of off cut bolt threaded sections welded to under dash cross brace works well.
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« Reply #45 on: 13 April 2021, 09:19:42 »

Back on the wiring, detangled a lot of dash loom and shortened the bit that goes to engine by fitting some plugs. Moved relay box to left of dash . Today will be sorting and shortening the wires that I put plugs on that went to the original connector blocks ow that I know where the loom is fitting. Took about 2 foot or more from engine loom , main feed wire is going over to bulkhead connector on r/h as battery wire runs from rear to starter . Well its keeping the grey matter active !!
 Lost the list I made of the connections for brake pipes to ABS unit , manual is no help as not even a photo. Have put a help post up but no response yet.
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« Reply #46 on: 13 April 2021, 10:24:19 »

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« Reply #47 on: 14 April 2021, 18:56:14 »

Cheers, did some more wiring today. My pile of discarded cable is getting larger!!
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« Reply #48 on: 19 April 2021, 21:03:14 »

Well central locking now works just needs a remote, have to check window motors work. The indicator switch is duff for r/h side , need to find why there is no feed to wiper fuse . Had to disconnect parking light wires as they dont work proper with Golf light switch (back feed) no great loss. Forgot to work out reverse light wires and the heated rear window switch not working , was going to use it to power air ride pump. Horns work!!!
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« Reply #49 on: 20 April 2021, 14:46:22 »

Excellent progress :y
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« Reply #50 on: 20 April 2021, 16:02:16 »

You certainly seem to know what you are doing girl :y :y

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« Reply #51 on: 20 April 2021, 19:57:42 »

Well duff fuse on wiper feed, it looked and tested fine across top . window motors work, joined the red wire to black wire so it now works with ign on. sorted a load more stuff as well and refitted dash to check fuse and relay box mounts, switch and clocks cables reach etc.
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