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[Nick W]

I thought, just in case, I'd have a bet on Trump winning the election at 6/1. After the bet was placed I got a list underneath saying 'People who placed a bet on this also bet on........'

The moon being made of cheese. Boris Johnson being an alien. Arsenal winning the premier league.

I may have wasted my tenner 

The last two won't require a lawsuit to claim, but how would you prove the first? Melt it onto a chunk of bread and enjoy a light snack? That would require a massive heat source in the vicinity....

Easy. Just fire a rocket at the moon. If it goes bang, in a big fireball, it's not cheese. If it goes 'Splooooooop' and disappears beneath the surface .............

Ah that depends on what type of cheese the moon is made of! 

If it's made of smelly soft French cheese then yes 'Splooooooop', but a decent English Cheddar or Red Leicester? 

Then the rocket will be stuck in it, and the test will be inconclusive. Back to the lawsuit. Or an election designed by Americans.

[Doctor Gollum]

I thought, just in case, I'd have a bet on Trump winning the election at 6/1. After the bet was placed I got a list underneath saying 'People who placed a bet on this also bet on........'

The moon being made of cheese. Boris Johnson being an alien. Arsenal winning the premier league.

I may have wasted my tenner 

The last two won't require a lawsuit to claim, but how would you prove the first? Melt it onto a chunk of bread and enjoy a light snack? That would require a massive heat source in the vicinity....

Easy. Just fire a rocket at the moon. If it goes bang, in a big fireball, it's not cheese. If it goes 'Splooooooop' and disappears beneath the surface .............

Ah that depends on what type of cheese the moon is made of! 

If it's made of smelly soft French cheese then yes 'Splooooooop', but a decent English Cheddar or Red Leicester? 

Then the rocket will be stuck in it, and the test will be inconclusive. Back to the lawsuit. Or an election designed by Americans.

Then it will all go back to the Germans for designing a fiendishly complicated Euro6 rocket

[ronnyd]

Ask Wallace and Gromit. they've been there.

[Raeturbo]

And back👍

[biggriffin]

That is a very good question, and was having this very conversation with my Bro yesterday. 

I would have to say that Trump, when he ran and was subsequently elected in 2016, was the perfect antidote to the general way that traditional values are being eroded at an almost exponential rate. And I was genuinely glad that he got in. I also hope he is reelected now, although I conceed that isn't looking likely, and if he ends up losing, it may be by two votes, which is no bad effort however you dress it up.

He has then spent the last four years constantly having to defend himself from both the left extremes and their indoctrined media, short of shooting him, they have literally spent four years trying to kick him out of the White House.

Sure, he isn't everyone's cup of tea, but at the same time, he says what he thinks, and whilst he relies heavily on Twitter to make his points, (personally I don't think that you can reasonably run a country in this way), he has made progress in the Middle East and has, at the outrage of everyone else deigned to put the US first. Which is how a President should be.

The liberal leftist mindset is, in my view, destroying all that used to be right in the world. Biden won't be President for long, he simply isn't mentally or physically upto the task. Whomsoever takes over from him will be far more left and that won't be good for the American people, and in the long run, that effects everyone else. It also won't be what everyone voted for.

In short, I think it's something that I have become drawn to, and fundamentally the way things are going is starting to really get on my nerves. It's not a new thing but rather one that has been festering since the late '90s. The problem is actually what, if anything can be done about it. And that REALLY bothers me 

  Yup... He has also signed a lot of bills that people haven't seen, the biggest being allowing patients to see how much drugs actually cost, and price comparison,,  His biggest fault is he doesn't come from America's political class, therefore that club wanted him out from the start.  And as for the Wokey/leftie pc brigade who seem to be in charge of MSM,  What chance do right thinking people have.

[Doctor Gollum]

https://youtu.be/CTfPsjstxrg

[Varche]

What a circus!

Notwithstanding couple of aspects that will affect us here Europe.

Defence. Biden has a slightly different view on European issues.

Brexit. My suspicion is that Boris has been fudging for time to see the outcome of the US presidential circus. If Biden wins , then expect a “ last minute deal” with capitulation on some areas that previously couldn’t be compromised. Probably better than being at the back of the queue or a US trade deal or indeed Trump chlorinated not so fresh chickens.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Hard to believe this is happening in the US.....

If Trump believes there is fraud he must provide evidence......I doubt he has any.

Was there fraud in the states he won?.........

[Doctor Gollum]

I shall bite my tongue and try and give a reasonable reply.

First things first, Trump didn't invent 'chlorinated' chicken, so you can stop that noise.

Secondly, he has every right, as does the electorate, to be suspicious when the count in a single disrict jumps by 120k in Bidens favour whilst not a single vote is added for Trump. With the margins as they are, that matters.

Even on here Trump would get a couple of votes

Right, back to food. Don't believe for one moment that cheap supermarket meat and fish hasn't been washed in some form of antibacterial solution during processing... Chlorinated anything suggests that it has been fed chlorine, whereas washing processed meat or fish in a very mild bleach solution is no different to you washing it in tap water before you cook it

The average person here thinks that the average American is fat and eats nothing but cheap, crap food. Have you seen our highstreets and tv adverts? Anyone would think that KFC and McDongals are the only places you can get food from.

Are we really that stuck up to think that our food processes are better than anyone elses?

If you want cheap food, expect it to have been reared in bulk and processed as such. If you want fresh meat, buy it from a farm on the day it is slaughtered and if you want 'ethically' reared pet veal, grow your own... But don't come screaming to me about the price.

Having access to one of the largest food production markets this side of the equator is in no way a bad thing if it keeps us fed post Brexit.

Trump has repeatedly said that he will gladly trade with us. Biden has repeatedly said that he will only trade with Eurpoe as a whole, ie the EU because of how arse backwards that's organised.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I shall bite my tongue and try and give a reasonable reply.

First things first, Trump didn't invent 'chlorinated' chicken, so you can stop that noise.

Secondly, he has every right, as does the electorate, to be suspicious when the count in a single disrict jumps by 120k in Bidens favour whilst not a single vote is added for Trump. With the margins as they are, that matters.

Even on here Trump would get a couple of votes

Right, back to food. Don't believe for one moment that cheap supermarket meat and fish hasn't been washed in some form of antibacterial solution during processing... Chlorinated anything suggests that it has been fed chlorine, whereas washing processed meat or fish in a very mild bleach solution is no different to you washing it in tap water before you cook it

The average person here thinks that the average American is fat and eats nothing but cheap, crap food. Have you seen our highstreets and tv adverts? Anyone would think that KFC and McDongals are the only places you can get food from.

Are we really that stuck up to think that our food processes are better than anyone elses?

If you want cheap food, expect it to have been reared in bulk and processed as such. If you want fresh meat, buy it from a farm on the day it is slaughtered and if you want 'ethically' reared pet veal, grow your own... But don't come screaming to me about the price.

Having access to one of the largest food production markets this side of the equator is in no way a bad thing if it keeps us fed post Brexit.

Trump has repeatedly said that he will gladly trade with us. Biden has repeatedly said that he will only trade with Eurpoe as a whole, ie the EU because of how arse backwards that's organised.

I agree....but he needs proof of wrong-doing.

[Varche]

Crikey..  good job no one said anything controversial. Your blood pressure must be sky high.

Yes British people are the 6th in obesity ranking  on the planet, fast catching the US apparently. Quite scary but a reflection on society I guess.

Back on the circus. Haven’t heard anyone mention (yet ) that the Russians or Chinese have been interfering in the result.

[Doctor Gollum]

Hard to believe this is happening in the US.....

If Trump believes there is fraud he must provide evidence......I doubt he has any.

Was there fraud in the states he won?.........

Not really. This is what happens when the election is 'called' by seven not so independent media companies using nothing more than imagination and wishful thinking.

These 'declarations' are then subject to change as the votes are finally tallied. Fox news are, rightly imho, getting some shit for their callings... They called Virginia with 1% returned, they called Arizona at 56% (which prompted AP to also call it.) yet it took them FOUR hours to call Florida even though the count was completed and the Govenor had formally announced it.

As I mentioned previously, a county in Pensylvania managed to report 120k Biden votes without reporting a single Trump vote. Whilst this is statistically possible, it is suspicious in light of deliberate voter manipulation at the polling stations and the fact that the AG of Pensylvania publicly stated that Trump will not win.

The key irrefutable fact is at 2:13 

https://youtu.be/53rlBcmkcJI
 
And that was on Saturday October 31st.

And that's on top of all the other dubious practices going on in Michigan and Iilinois.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Not really. This is what happens when the election is 'called' by seven not so independent media companies using nothing more than imagination and wishful thinking.

I refer the honourable gentlemen to my earlier comment #208.... 

"Amazing really that a modern advanced country like the USA can't devise a fool proof electoral system that delivers an undisputed result quickly and efficiently."  

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It would help Trump if he had more backing from the Republican party. They seem to have thrown him under the bus.

[Doctor Gollum]

Crikey..  good job no one said anything controversial. Your blood pressure must be sky high.

Yes British people are the 6th in obesity ranking  on the planet, fast catching the US apparently. Quite scary but a reflection on society I guess.

Back on the circus. Haven’t heard anyone mention (yet ) that the Russians or Chinese have been interfering in the result.

It isn't, thanks for asking

It just really grips my shit when people quote facebook and BBC etc as fact, without bothering to look to other more balanced sources for corroberation.

Trump should be on course to win at least 28 states, which is over half, but if you look at the states he didn't win, they're either the socialist strongholds of the west coast or the champagne socialist home of the political elites of the north east.

Middle America just wants a to do their thing without imposing their ideals on everyone else. That should, reasonably include not being imposed on by the far left. I genuinely worry for the future of the US, and consequently the rest of us should Biden/Harris win.