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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #15 on: 03 December 2020, 19:24:54 »

That's fixed in the same way that repeatedly smashing something with your biggest hammer 'fixes' things :-\
A hammer always fixes thins, one way or the other.

Try it on your g key!  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: 03 December 2020, 19:50:30 »

That's fixed in the same way that repeatedly smashing something with your biggest hammer 'fixes' things :-\
A hammer always fixes thins, one way or the other.
Yes. Hit yourself very hard on your big toe with your hammer and your cuts won't hurt any more  ;D
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #17 on: 03 December 2020, 19:50:50 »

What a classic idea Tigs. Shame Sammy disappeared :(
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #18 on: 03 December 2020, 21:50:23 »

That's fixed in the same way that repeatedly smashing something with your biggest hammer 'fixes' things :-\
A hammer always fixes thins, one way or the other.

Try it on your g key!  ;D
I hope that's not an euphemism  :o

I don't remember reading about that particular approach in Fifty Shades of emulsion...  :-\
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #19 on: 03 December 2020, 21:54:26 »

That's fixed in the same way that repeatedly smashing something with your biggest hammer 'fixes' things :-\
A hammer always fixes thins, one way or the other.

Try it on your g key!  ;D
I hope that's not an euphemism  :o

I don't remember reading about that particular approach in Fifty Shades of emulsion...  :-\

It might make TB's eyes water a bit if he tried to get Sammy up there!  :o  ;D
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #20 on: 03 December 2020, 21:56:09 »

My gut feeling is that there will be a deal, and has always been. If there is it will be at the last possible minute, and most people wont be completely happy or unhappy about it.
I also have a gut feeling that the EU are going to compromise further than a lot of the naysayers think they will.
We shall soon see.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #21 on: 03 December 2020, 22:31:20 »

By its very nature the concept of a deal will mean some unhappy people. Faragistas for example. Maybe Honfleur fishermen.

Pragmatism might win the day. Latest noises tonight aren’t very encouraging for a trade deal.
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« Reply #22 on: 04 December 2020, 00:30:38 »

Pragmatism will undoubtedly win the day. Except the UK hasn't been very pragmatic since 2016, and seems to have consistently and needlessly blundered from one bear-trap to another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubbSV5C9PXk

how much of this came true? (cf with the ivan rogers speech)

... before much of the serious work to look at where we wanted to land post exit had happened, we locked ourselves into a date certain for the invocation of Article 50.

That duly forfeited at a stroke any leverage over how that process would run. And it gave to the 27, who had, by the morning of June 24th, already set out their “no negotiation without (Article 50) notification” position, the first couple of goals of the match in the opening 5 minutes.


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« Reply #23 on: 04 December 2020, 20:39:16 »

Paused. Big boys going to talk Saturday afternoon.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #24 on: 05 December 2020, 07:56:54 »

My take - both sides want to avoid no deal unless it can clearly be blamed on the other side (and the Internal Market/Finance Bill could put the blame on us). So possibly some wishy-washy deal might suddenly emerge that suits the EU more than the UK, but nobody entirely.

With less than a month to go, I can't help thinking the UK government has somehow mired itself into needless and potentially endless problems which there were ample opportunities to avoid.

Every country has the government it deserves and in a democracy people get the leaders they deserve.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #25 on: 05 December 2020, 09:39:07 »

suits the EU more than the UK
That was always going to be the case, but the Farae Brainwashed Brigade could never see that, and then it became fact that we were going to et the best deal ever...

Every country has the government it deserves and in a democracy people get the leaders they deserve.
As I read that, all I could hear was the First Minister speaking.  She's a strange one...   ...fights to keep the union of the EU together, yet fits even harder to try to keep the union of the UK apart ;D
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #26 on: 05 December 2020, 10:38:20 »

My take - both sides want to avoid no deal unless it can clearly be blamed on the other side (and the Internal Market/Finance Bill could put the blame on us). So possibly some wishy-washy deal might suddenly emerge that suits the EU more than the UK, but nobody entirely.

With less than a month to go, I can't help thinking the UK government has somehow mired itself into needless and potentially endless problems which there were ample opportunities to avoid.

Every country has the government it deserves and in a democracy people get the leaders they deserve.

Well applying your assertion what follows doesn't reflect too well on Scotland , and I say that as a Scot.
Forum Members ,In this time of unprecedented chaos and in the midst of a world wide pandemic causing untold misery I give you the SNP Minister for Public Health ( on over £100 K / annum)...... ;D
https://twitter.com/ScotParl/status/1334214683717406720
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #27 on: 05 December 2020, 10:59:51 »

Isnt it strange that although we are an insignificant little rock off the coast of Europe, the reason the talks keep stalling is that the UK wont agree to sign a deal which means we have to abide by the rules set for us by the EU over trade, in order to prevent us from becoming more competitive than they consider healthy for their economic wellbeing going forward.  ??? ::)
Apparently the "level playing field", is crucial and too important for them to back down from.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #28 on: 05 December 2020, 11:21:15 »

Maybe the Muppet Barnier, had failed to see, that this little Island imports more from Europe than we export to them.
So it will cost the members of his little club, if he doesn't do a decent deal with us, which he won't, because then the other club members will want to leave and get that deal.

Basically we go with the good deal to suit trade, everyone else wants it and leaves, the Reich then collapse's again..
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« Reply #29 on: 05 December 2020, 12:10:06 »

They haven't been talking much about actual trade these last 10 months but about how much control the EU can retain over this insignificant little wet and windy speck in the North Atlantic or North Sea depending on how pessimistic you are feeling.  ::)

For some reason they don't seem too keen to let us go off and do our own thing.  :-X
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