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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #75 on: 27 March 2021, 09:51:35 »

We were in and out in a day and that was enough. Coach to the pyramids / sphinx / Cairo museum to see Tuts treasures, and then back on the boat to Cyprus.
A day I wont forget for many reasons (especially the heat !  :o) but no way in the world would I want to spend any time there.
It seemed to be a filthy stinking hole for the most part, with each local having a slightly different con to try and relieve you off your cash and valuables.
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #76 on: 27 March 2021, 10:12:49 »

We were in and out in a day and that was enough. Coach to the pyramids / sphinx / Cairo museum to see Tuts treasures, and then back on the boat to Cyprus.
A day I wont forget for many reasons (especially the heat !  :o) but no way in the world would I want to spend any time there.
It seemed to be a filthy stinking hole for the most part, with each local having a slightly different con to try and relieve you off your cash and valuables.


You're not wrong there my wife's brother who worked in Egypt died over there 2 years ago this week took ages to get his body back because we wouldn't pay extortionate amounts of cash to officials who were " well connected" their words  not mine got his remains back in July, which I had to try & identify which was impossible so had to result in dental records.Vowed never to visit the place.
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #77 on: 27 March 2021, 11:15:42 »

We were in and out in a day and that was enough. Coach to the pyramids / sphinx / Cairo museum to see Tuts treasures, and then back on the boat to Cyprus.
A day I wont forget for many reasons (especially the heat !  :o) but no way in the world would I want to spend any time there.
It seemed to be a filthy stinking hole for the most part, with each local having a slightly different con to try and relieve you off your cash and valuables.
We did the whole Luxor to Aswan and back again, on the Nile.  A shithole, but we had to do it as she has a fascination with ancient Egypt.

I remember the heat, the smell of Aswan (neat Benzine from the petrol), and having to lock ourselves in a McDonalds in Luxor until the police arrived.

We never carried cash in hands, bags or pockets, nor wore valuables, as you were guaranteed to lose it.  A country with such riches should not have so many poor....    ...but to quote our (Muslim) tour guide, that was the trouble with their form of Islam - endemic laziness and corruption.  And also the reason the boat only employed staff from sub sahara Africa.


But more pleasnt memories include some of the temples, and the west bank of the Nile including the Valley of the Kings.  We also did a baloon trip as dawn broke over the west bank that was epic.
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #78 on: 27 March 2021, 12:15:16 »

It's happened again  :o
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #79 on: 27 March 2021, 12:32:46 »

Shove the tiller over to the right and give it some beans ahead. It'll be on tother side of the channel before the person on the bank gets back on ;D
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #80 on: 27 March 2021, 19:52:45 »

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I remember the heat, the smell of Aswan ....

I'd imagine it's similar to Karachi  .... all sorts floated down the river while we were parked up there ....  ???
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« Reply #81 on: 27 March 2021, 19:55:44 »

Saw kids playing in the edges of the Nile, while a dead Donkey floated past.  ::)
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #82 on: 27 March 2021, 21:05:06 »

With all these row-boats being unable to make their destination.......... who's actually paying for it?

Logically, I'm thinking the Ever Given would be insured against late port-fee's, delayed goods, perished goods etc, as it's technically had an accident..... it cannot physically move.

What about all the others?  Claim from Evergreen's insurance?  Furthermore, do the Egyptian Government have a claim?

I suspect many of us have goods waiting in containers on those ships.... apart from getting a refund on the delivery charge, what recourse is there for the humble end-user?
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #83 on: 27 March 2021, 21:23:59 »

With all these row-boats being unable to make their destination.......... who's actually paying for it?

Logically, I'm thinking the Ever Given would be insured against late port-fee's, delayed goods, perished goods etc, as it's technically had an accident..... it cannot physically move.

What about all the others?  Claim from Evergreen's insurance?  Furthermore, do the Egyptian Government have a claim?

I suspect many of us have goods waiting in containers on those ships.... apart from getting a refund on the delivery charge, what recourse is there for the humble end-user?

Dunno..  :-\

But tell you what?  I'm off out to stock up on bog roll tomorrow!  ;D
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #84 on: 27 March 2021, 22:05:12 »

With all these row-boats being unable to make their destination.......... who's actually paying for it?

Logically, I'm thinking the Ever Given would be insured against late port-fee's, delayed goods, perished goods etc, as it's technically had an accident..... it cannot physically move.

What about all the others?  Claim from Evergreen's insurance?  Furthermore, do the Egyptian Government have a claim?

I suspect many of us have goods waiting in containers on those ships.... apart from getting a refund on the delivery charge, what recourse is there for the humble end-user?

Dunno..  :-\

But tell you what?  I'm off out to stock up on bog roll tomorrow!  ;D


Bog roll(and lots of other paper products) is made from timber from the managed forests that cover northern Europe. The reason why there was a scare for it last year started in Australia, which doesn't have a softwood industry and it's all imported.
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #85 on: 27 March 2021, 22:12:56 »

It's in their interests to get it cleared as presumably they can only charge for ships that actually get through the canal...

Imagine abandoning an artic across the Dartford Crossing tolls... They'd have it moved before lunch ;D
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #86 on: 27 March 2021, 22:25:20 »

It's in their interests to get it cleared as presumably they can only charge for ships that actually get through the canal...

Imagine abandoning an artic across the Dartford Crossing tolls... They'd have it moved before lunch ;D

I'll guess that the shipping companies pre-pay for transit through the canal.  Even if that's a few tens of thousands of pounds, it will be refunded as the ship was unable to pass (much like buying an airline ticket, but the runway is unusable).

That's just a drop in the ocean... what about all the goods, the port fee's, the fuel costs, the staff wages?
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #87 on: 27 March 2021, 22:50:29 »

It's in their interests to get it cleared as presumably they can only charge for ships that actually get through the canal...

Imagine abandoning an artic across the Dartford Crossing tolls... They'd have it moved before lunch ;D

I'll guess that the shipping companies pre-pay for transit through the canal.  Even if that's a few tens of thousands of pounds, it will be refunded as the ship was unable to pass (much like buying an airline ticket, but the runway is unusable).

That's just a drop in the ocean... what about all the goods, the port fee's, the fuel costs, the staff wages?


also modern shipping is run to very tight schedules, so there will be a number of ships that will miss their booked slots at various ports throughout the word. You can't just unload a fully loaded ship. The knock-on effects of this will continue for months.
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #88 on: 27 March 2021, 22:59:08 »

It's in their interests to get it cleared as presumably they can only charge for ships that actually get through the canal...

Imagine abandoning an artic across the Dartford Crossing tolls... They'd have it moved before lunch ;D

I'll guess that the shipping companies pre-pay for transit through the canal.  Even if that's a few tens of thousands of pounds, it will be refunded as the ship was unable to pass (much like buying an airline ticket, but the runway is unusable).

That's just a drop in the ocean... what about all the goods, the port fee's, the fuel costs, the staff wages?

Refunded? Probably just a voucher valid for twelve months on any Suez Canal trip with a ten thousand shekel admin fee.
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Re: Bad Parking
« Reply #89 on: 27 March 2021, 23:35:55 »

"Bet you cant do a U turn in the middle of the Suez canal."
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