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« on: 28 March 2021, 08:18:12 »

Thought the car accident calls might have stopped by now, but No, I still get them.

We all know there is a scam , but are they actually aster or are they just harvesting data in some way.

My usual responce when asked about my car accident.

Is it the the Bentley of Lambo you are ringing about?


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Which one, which day, I had 5 accidents this week.


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You tell me you have the details in front of you.

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« Reply #1 on: 28 March 2021, 08:42:03 »

I usually add the 7 people that I killed & I know it was stupid to drink & drive but it was an accident I didn't mean to do it , funny thing though they always hang up on me..😀
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« Reply #2 on: 28 March 2021, 09:44:26 »

Also random phone calls where probably a PC dialed I pick up and no one at the other end as they are waiting for someone to pick up. or they just hang up . . .  why ring in the 1st place, or are they just making a list of confirmed active numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: 28 March 2021, 09:46:46 »

Micky take on the phone calls is I have a spare phone that only 2 people know the number for (poor reception on the other 2 depending on area (thats annother thread))  but yet there are 2 calls a day at least from numbers all over the country.
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« Reply #4 on: 28 March 2021, 18:11:37 »

Firstly, dont be stupid enough to give your phone number to anybody you dont want to have it, including TPS.

Secondly, playing along will get you on the suckers list...   ...although to get the call usually means you are already on it.
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« Reply #5 on: 28 March 2021, 19:41:17 »

Firstly, dont be stupid enough to give your phone number to anybody you dont want to have it, including TPS.

Secondly, playing along will get you on the suckers list...   ...although to get the call usually means you are already on it.

I dont even pick the phone up to see who is ringing.  All my friends get different ring tones. (Both of them)
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« Reply #6 on: 28 March 2021, 19:49:22 »

I dont even pick the phone up to see who is ringing.  All my friends get different ring tones. (Both of them)


This says you do!


Thought the car accident calls might have stopped by now, but No, I still get them.

We all know there is a scam , but are they actually aster or are they just harvesting data in some way.

My usual responce when asked about my car accident.

Is it the the Bentley of Lambo you are ringing about?


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Which one, which day, I had 5 accidents this week.


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You tell me you have the details in front of you.

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« Reply #7 on: 29 March 2021, 07:06:29 »

I dont even pick the phone up to see who is ringing.  All my friends get different ring tones. (Both of them)


This says you do!


Thought the car accident calls might have stopped by now, but No, I still get them.

We all know there is a scam , but are they actually aster or are they just harvesting data in some way.

My usual responce when asked about my car accident.

Is it the the Bentley of Lambo you are ringing about?


or

Which one, which day, I had 5 accidents this week.


or

You tell me you have the details in front of you.

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. . . . . . . . . Speak then

HAHA fair point

I did this on my main phone (Three) got fed up now its a waste of my time

My Plusnet phone I get 2/3 calls a day from numbers all over the country.  I just ignore them.

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« Reply #8 on: 29 March 2021, 09:38:55 »

I get hardly any unknown calls to my mobile but within the last week I've received two scam text messages. One from Royal Mail to say that there was a 1.49 charge due for an undelivered parcel and to click on the link, and one from the Halifax to warn of a possible unauthorised login to online banking and to click on the link.
As both messages could be partially seen on screen without opening them, and the fact that I'm not expecting a parcel and I don't bank with the Halifax, they both got deleted without the need to open them. Still hacks you off though that someone is up to no good.
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« Reply #9 on: 29 March 2021, 11:40:14 »

Note down the number they call you from and next time you get a call, tell me them your battery is going flat, can they call you back on this number. Give them the number of the previous Indian call centre.

Let them argue between themselves. I had 'Carphone Warehouse' (It wasn't) ringing Carphone Warehouse in London ;)
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« Reply #10 on: 29 March 2021, 11:47:17 »

I have recently had a text saying my account had been suspended due to abnormal behavior (even though its still getting used)

I got the overdue parcel charge one as well.

Had a few from the scamers regards building society accounts as well.

I have known for years the banking groups, the Tax man etc (Had a few txts for that as well) never send text messasges or detailed emails, they may send a message telling you there is a message when you log in.

The confusing one for me after the advice above was when I go into online banking I often get a link for a safer login method, I wont even try even if it is from the banks, simply because if they recomended it I would have the option once logged in to use it next time round.
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« Reply #11 on: 29 March 2021, 11:52:54 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
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« Reply #12 on: 29 March 2021, 13:05:19 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
Number spoofing has been used for quite a while now. Despite what these so called 'street wise' people who have been conned say, I reckon you'd have to be a bit retarded to fall for any of these scams.
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« Reply #13 on: 29 March 2021, 13:51:28 »

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 and one from the Halifax to warn of a possible unauthorised login to online banking and to click on the link.
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My wife got that too, she does bank with the Halifax and started to get into a panic and was going to click the link. Fortunately I just said it'll be a scam & to log into her account her usual way ..... It was a scam
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« Reply #14 on: 29 March 2021, 14:06:06 »

I rarely get the 'you were in an accident call'

When I do I tell them the crash proved fatal and resulted in my demise.

.......this doesn't seem to deter them though... ;D

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« Reply #15 on: 29 March 2021, 14:13:19 »

When I get one of these calls there is always a delay before they speak + you can hear other scammers in the background it's a dead giveaway , had one last week who rang on the house phone & asked " who am I speaking to" , who do you want it to be pal was my reply you rang me ? He hung up without saying another word.
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« Reply #16 on: 29 March 2021, 14:32:14 »

As I said when I 1st posted, what are they hopeing to gain.

We know these calls are a scam

They know its a scam.

We all have insurance companies to deal with our car accident scams

Plus on top of all this I thought "Cold Calling" was illegal now?
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« Reply #17 on: 29 March 2021, 14:43:28 »

Plus on top of all this I thought "Cold Calling" was illegal now?

It is, but I think the Indian police have bigger fish to fry.

There is no way to stop it really. You can let all your calls go to answering machine and leave a message saying, 'Hi I screen my calls, if you want a call back, leave a message'.

I argued with one last week, claiming he was from Carphone Warehouse. I told him he wasn't, be he was so insistent. I said, well delete my number and stop phoning me. He replied, I can't unless I get a sale. I pointed out that if he was CPW, he would have to comply to my legal request. I also pointed out, I don't believe your name, your company or your phone number. What makes you think I'm going to give you any of my details?
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« Reply #18 on: 29 March 2021, 14:54:53 »

I doubt call centre factories in Bangalore give a flying monkey shit about the legality of what they do.

They possibly use them for staff training courses as part of the induction process into genuine corporate call centres, although I doubt it.

As for the why... it depends on the type of scam, but basically to get your money into their pockets either by making you pay for summat you'll never receive or to make use of something that you've already paid for or harvesting your data and selling it to the highest bidders such as global conglomerates or any company that wants your data but can't 'legally' get it without your permission.
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« Reply #19 on: 29 March 2021, 20:16:40 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
Number spoofing has been used for quite a while now. Despite what these so called 'street wise' people who have been conned say, I reckon you'd have to be a bit retarded to fall for any of these scams.
When sending a GSM SMS, you actually include the sender ID as part of the message.  Now most phones dont allow you to adjust this, but any proper SMS application certainly does.

So beyond trivial to spoof text messages
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« Reply #20 on: 29 March 2021, 20:20:28 »

As I said when I 1st posted, what are they hopeing to gain.
British public are stupid.

They only need a handful to believe them to make it worthwhile.

And the British public are stupid.


It clearly is working for them, else these would slowly dry up.


Oh, and the British public are pretty gullible. And stupid.
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« Reply #21 on: 29 March 2021, 20:21:46 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
Number spoofing has been used for quite a while now. Despite what these so called 'street wise' people who have been conned say, I reckon you'd have to be a bit retarded to fall for any of these scams.
When sending a GSM SMS, you actually include the sender ID as part of the message.  Now most phones dont allow you to adjust this, but any proper SMS application certainly does.

So beyond trivial to spoof text messages
Maybe, but Skruntie said calls, and any scam call centre worth it's salt can easily do that.
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« Reply #22 on: 29 March 2021, 20:24:11 »

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« Reply #23 on: 29 March 2021, 20:26:57 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
Number spoofing has been used for quite a while now. Despite what these so called 'street wise' people who have been conned say, I reckon you'd have to be a bit retarded to fall for any of these scams.
When sending a GSM SMS, you actually include the sender ID as part of the message.  Now most phones dont allow you to adjust this, but any proper SMS application certainly does.

So beyond trivial to spoof text messages
Maybe, but Skruntie said calls, and any scam call centre worth it's salt can easily do that.
Indeed. But I was getting across even little jonny can do it from his bedroom whilst mummy thinks he's doing his homework :)
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« Reply #24 on: 29 March 2021, 20:29:07 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
Number spoofing has been used for quite a while now. Despite what these so called 'street wise' people who have been conned say, I reckon you'd have to be a bit retarded to fall for any of these scams.
When sending a GSM SMS, you actually include the sender ID as part of the message.  Now most phones dont allow you to adjust this, but any proper SMS application certainly does.

So beyond trivial to spoof text messages
Maybe, but Skruntie said calls, and any scam call centre worth it's salt can easily do that.
Indeed. But I was getting across even little jonny can do it from his bedroom whilst mummy thinks he's doing his homework :)
There are lots of things little Jonny can do in his bedroom, unbeknown to his mummy  ;D
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« Reply #25 on: 29 March 2021, 20:39:04 »

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« Reply #26 on: 30 March 2021, 13:10:00 »

A lot of calls in the past have come through on a local STD code and for the sake of wondering who it was they got answered, when they have an accent I allways get inquisitive and ask where they are from, and ask then , where are you calling from.  Was gobsmaked when one lad said he was calling from Mumbai and using my local STD code. :-\
Number spoofing has been used for quite a while now. Despite what these so called 'street wise' people who have been conned say, I reckon you'd have to be a bit retarded to fall for any of these scams.
When sending a GSM SMS, you actually include the sender ID as part of the message.  Now most phones dont allow you to adjust this, but any proper SMS application certainly does.

So beyond trivial to spoof text messages
Maybe, but Skruntie said calls, and any scam call centre worth it's salt can easily do that.
Indeed. But I was getting across even little jonny can do it from his bedroom whilst mummy thinks he's doing his homework :)
There are lots of things little Jonny can do in his bedroom, unbeknown to his mummy  ;D

Yes. But most of them end up as a 'sticky mess'.... 8)
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« Reply #27 on: 30 March 2021, 16:52:52 »

As I said when I 1st posted, what are they hopeing to gain.
British public are stupid.

They only need a handful to believe them to make it worthwhile.

And the British public are stupid.


It clearly is working for them, else these would slowly dry up.


Oh, and the British public are pretty gullible. And stupid.

Credit where it's due TB, you had the opportunity to answer bluntly and curtly, but no, you took the extra time to make sure that your reply was both articulate and finessed. Well done.  :y  :)  .................... ;D
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« Reply #28 on: 30 March 2021, 17:23:17 »

As I said when I 1st posted, what are they hopeing to gain.
British public are stupid.

They only need a handful to believe them to make it worthwhile.

And the British public are stupid.


It clearly is working for them, else these would slowly dry up.


Oh, and the British public are pretty gullible. And stupid.

Yes, all regrettably correct TB :y

That is why so many hand over thousands of pounds, often their life savings, they have withdrawn from their bank on the instructions of the "police" to couriers who call on the doorstep ::) ::) :'( :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #29 on: 30 March 2021, 17:56:16 »

Credit where it's due TB, you had the opportunity to answer bluntly and curtly, but no, you took the extra time to make sure that your reply was both articulate and finessed. Well done.  :y  :)  .................... ;D
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« Reply #30 on: 30 March 2021, 18:00:30 »

Credit where it's due TB, you had the opportunity to answer bluntly and curtly, but no, you took the extra time to make sure that your reply was both articulate and finessed. Well done.  :y  :)  .................... ;D
Why Thank you Mr Yz.

I really do think the tablets to help me discover a new, softer, me are really helping.

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« Reply #31 on: 05 April 2021, 14:17:47 »

Cant believe it's Bank Holiday and the buggers are at it again.

After the 1st ignored mobile call, 10 mins later the land rings.  so as no one other than family and thre NHS know this number I picked it up to be askedabout the damage caused to my house.    Is this the latest cold call scam starting?
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