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[Andy B]

I thought I spotted my dream Vauxhall on ebay today.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225019887255?hash=item34643afe97:g:yYYAAOSwBvJini3A

And then I saw this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234578639868?hash=item369df9fbfc:g:grYAAOSwJV1hqkkK

which 1 are you buying then ..... 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Both - assuming I win the lottery this week.

P.S. I dont do the lottery. 

[Andy B]

Both - assuming I win the lottery this week.

P.S. I dont do the lottery. 

[TheBoy]

I now reluctantly admit its a better car than the Senator was. 

That sounds far too much like common sense taking over. What have you done with Albs?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I thought I spotted my dream Vauxhall on ebay today.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225019887255?hash=item34643afe97:g:yYYAAOSwBvJini3A

And then I saw this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234578639868?hash=item369df9fbfc:g:grYAAOSwJV1hqkkK

£45,000.....

Is your old one still alive or has it been cubed?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Still alive. It was reshelled into an HSR shell about 20 years ag, I believe.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I now reluctantly admit its a better car than the Senator was. 

That sounds far too much like common sense taking over. What have you done with Albs?

Well, I havent had the 3.2 flat out (getting too old), but I enjoyed getting the Senator flat out when conditions allowed, so there is still some doubt. 
I still also think that in its day, the Senator had more of a prestige feel and look about it than the Omega did in its day. 

[Andy B]

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I still also think that in its day, the Senator had more of a prestige feel and look about it than the Omega did in its day. 

Course it did. The Senator was a peg above the Carlton ..... when the Omega appeared, it replaced both cars.

[Keith ABS]

And mine…….traded in for an Omega.

Should have kept it with it’s 3.0 engine, and a great feel about the whole car.  It was far easier to work on as well than the Omega’s I have had since.  No cam belt changes, plenty of room around the straight 6, and a lack of electronic sensors everywhere!

 

Only downside is the weak timing chain and lack of chain guide availability
Never had a Senny B myself but did have two Carlton Diamond Estates, both 24V and a 12v GSI manual.

[Kevin Wood]

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I still also think that in its day, the Senator had more of a prestige feel and look about it than the Omega did in its day. 

Course it did. The Senator was a peg above the Carlton ..... when the Omega appeared, it replaced both cars.

Yep. First nail in the coffin of decent Vauxhalls was styling them like an Astra. Final nail was driving the wrong wheels like an Astra.

[TheBoy]

Well, I havent had the 3.2 flat out (getting too old), but I enjoyed getting the Senator flat out when conditions allowed, so there is still some doubt. 

The 3.0 was the best of the Omega engines from a performance point of view.  And proven to be a little bit faster than a 24v Senny.

The 3.2 Omega against a 24v Senny will probably be pretty close I reckon...

[Varche]

Or,

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13456623

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

A lotus Elise with the gorgeous body removed and replaced with a very ugly one, 

[Lizzie Zoom]

And mine…….traded in for an Omega.

Should have kept it with it’s 3.0 engine, and a great feel about the whole car.  It was far easier to work on as well than the Omega’s I have had since.  No cam belt changes, plenty of room around the straight 6, and a lack of electronic sensors everywhere!

 

Only downside is the weak timing chain and lack of chain guide availability
Never had a Senny B myself but did have two Carlton Diamond Estates, both 24V and a 12v GSI manual.

That was not my experience, with my example getting to 240,000 miles without a problem.  Indeed, my Vauxhall dealer at the time stated they NEVER had to replace the timing chains on the Senator with them knowing examples going to 350,000 miles without trouble.  They may have gained a bit of a rattle, but never failed.

A bit different that's for sure on the Omega's timing belt having to be replaced very 40k miles or 4 years.  I would have my Senny back tomorrow!

[Raeturbo]

Timing chain guides were indeed a problem on high mileage 24V Senator/Carlton’s. They simply wore out