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Started by Greenbay packer, 19 February 2023, 10:23:04

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cam.in.head

at the end of theday its easy enough to dissconnect the cable and reverse it

Greenbay packer

Quote from: cam.in.head on 20 February 2023, 23:37:30
at the end of theday its easy enough to dissconnect the cable and reverse it

I agree, just wanted to make sure I was on the right track before starting in case there was no difference in the cable lengths.

cam.in.head

im pretty sure there was last time i did one and someone also mentioned it earlier up this thread.
either way its a good way to be sure and 100% check the curled hooks ! washer on them if needs be !
if the cable saddle doesnt sit straight then it must be something in the drums ?

Migv6 le Frog Fan

This may have already been mentioned earlier in the thread, but do they both have the same part number ?
If not then there has to be a difference.
Its weird being the same age as old people !

dave the builder



Quote from: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 February 2023, 18:31:55
This may have already been mentioned earlier in the thread, but do they both have the same part number ?
If not then there has to be a difference.
It's an assembly the compensator with N/S & O/S  cables fitted  ;)

Looking at spec (on ebay listings ) the cable appears to be the same length BOTH sides 1550mm 1550mm

the 15MM difference on my BRAND NEW cable  may be a manufacturing defect  :-\
It's a QH aftermarket cable ,15mm over 1550mm is 1%
that said , maybe the OP has a similar manufacturing defect  :-\
or the cable HAS stretched one side  :-\
or it's NOT fitted or adjusted correctly  :-\

$19.50 EBAY
£32.30 ebay clicky

sorry to mislead , but the cable I have spare IS 15mm difference
(I laid it flat ,tight on the floor ,see saw level )


Doctor Gollum

Would you Adam and Eve it... ::)
Onanists always think outside the box.

Greenbay packer

Quote from: dave the builder on 21 February 2023, 19:02:41


Quote from: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 February 2023, 18:31:55
This may have already been mentioned earlier in the thread, but do they both have the same part number ?
If not then there has to be a difference.
It's an assembly the compensator with N/S & O/S  cables fitted  ;)

Looking at spec (on ebay listings ) the cable appears to be the same length BOTH sides 1550mm 1550mm

the 15MM difference on my BRAND NEW cable  may be a manufacturing defect  :-\
It's a QH aftermarket cable ,15mm over 1550mm is 1%
that said , maybe the OP has a similar manufacturing defect  :-\
or the cable HAS stretched one side  :-\
or it's NOT fitted or adjusted correctly  :-\

$19.50 EBAY
£32.30 ebay clicky

sorry to mislead , but the cable I have spare IS 15mm difference
(I laid it flat ,tight on the floor ,see saw level )

I've now found an article on here by geoffr70 that seems to answer the question and confirms what some have said above in this post about the lengths being different. Geoff has posted a picture of the cables which shows them to be different lengths and clearly notes this in the second paragraph of section 10 where he also advises getting it right first time. Here's the link to his article: https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=102410.0


cam.in.head

yes i saw that too.
unfortunately it doesnt mention which side the longer one goes to !  but seeing as your problem only began after a new cable was fitted it is a good place to start.

Greenbay packer

Quote from: cam.in.head on 22 February 2023, 17:03:18
yes i saw that too.
unfortunately it doesnt mention which side the longer one goes to !  but seeing as your problem only began after a new cable was fitted it is a good place to start.

Pretty confident this could resolve my issue - I'm hoping Geoff has laid the cable out as it should be on the car with the longer length being on the passenger side. At least I've got something worth checking now and can see what my lengths are when I remove the cable.

cam.in.head

#39
main thing is getting the saddle straight. hopefully you will sort it.but i suppose even a new cable could be made slightly out so if thats so you can always add washers to one of the curled brackets to make it straight !

i have had a look under mine today for you and the saddle is straight. the pull is equal at both sides.only because you got me wanting to check !

johnnydog

#40
On the Apec site, they list the Omega handbrake cables as two different overall lengths - 1513mm and 1545 mm. Unfortunately, it doesn't specify which side is which.... ::), but from that it appears they are not the same size; one difference being between the fixed mounting points - one is 883mm, the other 840mm.
2002 3.2 Elite saloon, 2003 3.2 Elite saloon & estate

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: johnnydog on 24 February 2023, 07:58:40
On the Apec site, they list the Omega handbrake cables as two different overall lengths - 1513mm and 1545 mm. Unfortunately, it doesn't specify which side is which.... ::), but from that it appears they are not the same size; one difference being between the fixed mounting points - one is 883mm, the other 840mm.
Apec struggle to manufacture brake discs that run true. Why would you expect them to produce a consistent cable?

Ate suggests 1550 for the front run and 840 for the rear...

https://www.123spareparts.co.uk/car-parts/ate/p-195485

Also, why fit a single cable when you can buy the complete thing ???

I wonder if this is why the OP is having issues... If the cable he replaced is from a different manufacturer to the other side then it will never be balanced regardless of how much it is adjusted.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Doctor Gollum

When I replaced mine, it was with whatever the local factors in Notinreading had in stock and it went in without a second thought and zero operating issues.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Marks DTM Calib

Its not the total length that is important, it is the length of cable that protrudes from the fixed sheath that is.

Nick W

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2023, 11:04:26
When I replaced mine, it was with whatever the local factors in Notinreading had in stock and it went in without a second thought and zero operating issues.


Mine was the same; bought a Pagid cable from ECP, drove home and fitted it. Although I didn't refit the heat shields.