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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Well, I know next to SFA about milk floats, Jimmy. Something I share in common with many other topics. 

I've just discovered the car comes with a heat pump (something I hear doesn't work very well even in our home homes, yet the government, and mad Ed Milliband in particular, wants us all to install one) How does this work in the context of a car.

Also, it comes with an onboard 11KW charger for use when away from home. What is the point of this when even 50KW charging is seen as glacial in 2025.

To add to what LC0112G said regarding heat pumps, their purpose on an ev is to extend the range during cold weather. This can add as much as 10% to the range and work well in the UK where we don't often get *really* cold weather. Its something I would look for if I were to be looking to push the range  of the car on a regular basis. If its just a second car for knocking about in, I wouldn't worry about it.

In general, I would say regarding range, look up on the 'net what people are getting in the real world and use that as your guide. I'm sure I will get derided on here for saying it, but battery degradation really isn't the issue that most non-ev drivers would have you believe. As an example, I follow a guy on youtube that runs Cleeveley EV - they are an independent EV servicing company that run a fleet of converted MG5 estate cars as their 'vans. The degradation on those seems to be about 10-12% at 100,000 miles and about 18-20% at 200,000. Considering the average mileage of a scrapped car in the UK is around 125,000 its not that big a deal. Also, as more EVs hit the road, the used packs become cheaper to buy. The exception to this general comment is nissan leafs, they don't have any facility to actively manage the temperature of the battery packs, so their battery degradation can be significantly more severe.

To answer your point about the 11kw charger, this is actually how much power the AC-to-DC inverter can handle. 11kw is only any use if you have access to a 3 phase supply, otherwise the max is 7kw. Where these make a lot of sense is workplace car parks, for example here we have some 7kw and some 11kw charging posts and the difference is noticeable. We get told to shift our cars after 3hrs in the charge bays to let other people charge so the higher power rating makes a big difference then.

Being honest its extremely rare I use public DC rapid charging, probably two or three times in the last 11 months / 23,000 miles. When I do I find taht anything over 100kw is fast enough. Starting out with about 200-220 miles on the BMW, taking 15-20mins will add 100 ish miles and its rare I would want to do more than 300 miles in a day. Again if its your only car this may not hold true, but given the average mileage driven in the UK is about 8000 per year, it would certainly apply to most people.

Overall I like EVs very much for daily commuting. The BMW is good for overtaking and quick enough for a family bus. It isn't "fun", but neither is any SUV, short of a RR sport SVR, its not designed to be.

Tried it before I signed up for the BMW (although mine would have been the boggo 400bhp version) but my ar$e didn't fit in the seats, so it was a non starter. If I had my own and could throw some VW golf seats in, I might be tempted  .
I wonder how long it will be before you trade your BMW for something like an electric Porsche with warp speed like acceleration? 

I'm also now divorced and really don't want to work past my mid 50's so I suspect I might end up with something a bit more modest as my next car (iPace looks tempting, but I'd want to chat to that DTM bloke first as I know they had some battery issues).

There was a bit of a stand off between Mrs Opti and me.

She wanted an electric Mini/Bini convertible. I told her that as well as women drivers these cars were also driven by male hairdressers who wear leather jeans with a zipper at the back. Proper LGBT stuff.

So we came to a compromise with something she was happy to drive, and I could also drive without embarrassment if the need arose.

[Sir Tigger KC]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

[STEMO]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

Oh dear, you're playing his game 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

Well....Sir Tigger.

Car was registered 1st March 2025 so wears 25 plate. She has just 12 delivery miles on the clock.

Dual motors so performance is reasonable, but not proper fast like a Tesla or Porsche Taycan. Middling grunt.

Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.

Easy.

......oh and from next year this manufacturer will only sell cars to homosexuals and women with a penis.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag. 

Yeeaaahhh.....what clinched it was that it's presented in the same Italian racing red as my old XFR 5.0S/C.......although for some unknown reason Jag now call it Firenze red.

I have absolutely no idea why they changed the name.

[Sir Tigger KC]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

Well....Sir Tigger.

Car was registered 1st March 2025 so wears 25 plate. She has just 12 delivery miles on the clock.

Dual motors so performance is reasonable, but not proper fast like a Tesla or Porsche Taycan. Middling grunt.

Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.

Easy.

......oh and from next year this manufacturer will only sell cars to homosexuals and women with a penis.

So when you drive it you will identify as a lesbian woman with a penis? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

Well....Sir Tigger.

Car was registered 1st March 2025 so wears 25 plate. She has just 12 delivery miles on the clock.

Dual motors so performance is reasonable, but not proper fast like a Tesla or Porsche Taycan. Middling grunt.

Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.

Easy.

......oh and from next year this manufacturer will only sell cars to homosexuals and women with a penis.

So when you drive it you will identify as a lesbian woman with a penis? 

Yes.....a person with a penis who is attracted to women. I'm sure there used to be a name for that which wasn't lesbian.

[TheBoy]

......oh and from next year this manufacturer will only sell cars to homosexuals and women with a penis.

I'm led to believe they are in the process of dumping their ad agency....


We all know Jaaaaggs should be driven by virile men who never pay for anything....

[Sir Tigger KC]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

Well....Sir Tigger.

Car was registered 1st March 2025 so wears 25 plate. She has just 12 delivery miles on the clock.

Dual motors so performance is reasonable, but not proper fast like a Tesla or Porsche Taycan. Middling grunt.

Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.

Easy.

......oh and from next year this manufacturer will only sell cars to homosexuals and women with a penis.

So when you drive it you will identify as a lesbian woman with a penis? 

Yes.....a person with a penis who is attracted to women. I'm sure there used to be a name for that which wasn't lesbian.

That's just not how it works these days M'Lud. 

You can identify as a homosexual, a woman with a penis or both, which means you are a lesbian. 

[YZ250]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

……..
Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.
…….

I thought the I-Pace had been discontinued due to poor sales and software issues, or have I got the wrong Jag. 

[Doctor Gollum]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

……..
Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.
…….

I thought the I-Pace had been discontinued due to poor sales and software issues, or have I got the wrong Jag. 

They've got to shift the ones they've already built...

[Andy B]

I was killing time the other day in the local shopping centre where there were BYD cars on display. I know nothing about them but have to say the interior of the "Sealion" was quite impressive  (other than the iPad type dash  )

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So c'mon. What is Mrs Opti getting? 

……..
Built in Austria.....and the car has already been mentioned a couple of times by people on this thread.
…….

I thought the I-Pace had been discontinued due to poor sales and software issues, or have I got the wrong Jag. 

They have.

They've been around since 2019 but have been updated 2 or 3 times in that period. The early I-Pace would only charge at 50KW.....later cars 100KW.

Mrs Opti's car is an HSE model with all the bells and whistles. With the options an £84,000 car 2 years ago.....A £60,000 car 1 year ago.

Now on a 25 plate available for 45% of the original cost with just 12 miles on the clock.I thought 'f*uck it' why not.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I was killing time the other day in the local shopping centre where there were BYD cars on display. I know nothing about them but have to say the interior of the "Sealion" was quite impressive  (other than the iPad type dash  )

We had a look. They are quite well made for a 'chinky' car but look closely and you will see where costs have been cut.

Dual  motor top model is around £70,000 which you'd be mad to pay.