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[Doctor Gollum]

I can't wrap my head around the maths. Surely there's a price to pay somewhere 

[tunnie]

Officially, this i4 M60 on paper is a £75k car. Not that anyone pays that! BMW were offering 35% to Lex on the build slot, which explains why this was cheaper than a Tesla which had a list price of £50k on LEX monthlies.

I do wonder how BMW does the pricing on its lease cars sometimes. My iX is similar base price of c£75k (iX M60 is something like £115k  ), but the monthlies of Octopus can fluctuate by >£200 pcm. I managed to get it at a fairly low ebb, but I don't think I could have the same car again if my lease were coming to an end soon. 

I think BMW offer build slot discounts, when I called up to find out more they said no one really buys the "bonkers" model. They go mid range.

I specified a mid range eDrive 40 i4, with adaptive ride and few other bits. Came out £50/m less than the M60. So I thought why not! 

[TheBoy]

I can't wrap my head around the maths. Surely there's a price to pay somewhere 

Its a tax avoidance scheme*, so that's where the money is...  ...rather than give to Rachael, it goes towards a car.


*to clarify, NOT a tax evasion scheme.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Not tried the pre-heat thingy on Mrs Opti's I-Pace, or the heated steering wheel.

But I grew up with ice on the inside of the windows, so such things have a touch of the 'nancy boy' about them.

one of the best features, so nice coming into a warm car. You almost don't need a heated seat or wheel

We tried the 'preconditioning thingy' last night before driving to the supermarket...... preheated car for about forty minutes.

Car was good and warm with no misting up to clear away.

However, car was not plugged into the zappy and lost 3% of charge.....94% down to 91%. Hmm.

[TheBoy]

Pre heating is always going to use a lot of electricity.

But if plugged in and car outside, it's nice to have a warm car on an icy morning.


One of my old works transits had a diesel powered preheater that heated the coolant and had a coolant aux pump, and had a timer to set it.  It fired up just before I used to get up, so by the time I'd shit/showered/dressed, it was lubly jubly, all windows defrosted, and nice and warm in it.

It did flatten the battery if I had a few days off, and forgot to turn the thing off though

[tunnie]

I can't wrap my head around the maths. Surely there's a price to pay somewhere 

Its a tax avoidance scheme*, so that's where the money is...  ...rather than give to Rachael, it goes towards a car.


*to clarify, NOT a tax evasion scheme.

In simple terms, I could give Rachel a £1,000. But if I decide that I'd rather have the money instead, into my bank, I'd see less than £400.

But instead of going into my bank, I ask for a car instead. A very fast car. 

No doubt this loop/avoidance will change, but for now it works and I'll take it.

[tunnie]

Not tried the pre-heat thingy on Mrs Opti's I-Pace, or the heated steering wheel.

But I grew up with ice on the inside of the windows, so such things have a touch of the 'nancy boy' about them.

one of the best features, so nice coming into a warm car. You almost don't need a heated seat or wheel

We tried the 'preconditioning thingy' last night before driving to the supermarket...... preheated car for about forty minutes.

Car was good and warm with no misting up to clear away.

However, car was not plugged into the zappy and lost 3% of charge.....94% down to 91%. Hmm.

40 mins feels excessive, in the morning it's plugged in so no issue.

At work, I ask it to warm up about 5/10 mins before I get to the car. Usually nice and warm!

Mine does have a Heat Pump though, which is supposed to have less effect on the drive battery for heating

[JamesV6CDX]

Hmmm, curry, beer, pissing around with cars... ...just like the old days

If it’s just like the old days, I’m afraid you’re going to have to invite me

A few in the pub and then a hot curry, bliss, I am in 

I also live close enough these days to blag a ride home 

[Kevin Wood]

Did someone mention Curry? 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Not tried the pre-heat thingy on Mrs Opti's I-Pace, or the heated steering wheel.

But I grew up with ice on the inside of the windows, so such things have a touch of the 'nancy boy' about them.

one of the best features, so nice coming into a warm car. You almost don't need a heated seat or wheel

We tried the 'preconditioning thingy' last night before driving to the supermarket...... preheated car for about forty minutes.

Car was good and warm with no misting up to clear away.

However, car was not plugged into the zappy and lost 3% of charge.....94% down to 91%. Hmm.

Its a 7kW heater (hence the range loss when ran for forty minutes), you only need to run it for five to ten mins

[YZ250]

This just popped up in my news feeds. It appears that Auto Express like the BMW i4 M60 as well. 

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/i4/368908/new-bmw-i4-m60-xdrive-2026-review-great-expensive-fast-ev

[tunnie]

Thanks for sharing.

Yes I do fine it a very smooth a refined place to be, whats funny is the salary sacrifice deal removes their only negative point, the price!

I did spec up an i4 eDrive40 and it was ~£50 a month less than the M60. Felt for the price, it was worth it for the extra horses 

Surprised they don't mention the weight, it's a very, very heavy car (2,300kg) - Even I notice it chucking around my favourite diesel covered and off camber roundabout. The old 435i and it's terrible run flat tyres barely gripped there but it was a good bit of fun. The X-Drive i4 is not quite as fun there.

"The i4 remains a better all-rounder than the Tesla Model 3, let down only by its lofty price and the fact it doesn’t have universal access to the US maker’s excellent Supercharger network. Supremely refined, lightning quick and filled with well integrated, intuitive tech, the only reason not to buy an i4 M60 is because the eDrive35 is 99 per cent as capable – all for £20k less."

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Thanks for sharing.

Yes I do fine it a very smooth a refined place to be, whats funny is the salary sacrifice deal removes their only negative point, the price!

I did spec up an i4 eDrive40 and it was ~£50 a month less than the M60. Felt for the price, it was worth it for the extra horses 

Surprised they don't mention the weight, it's a very, very heavy car (2,300kg) - Even I notice it chucking around my favourite diesel covered and off camber roundabout. The old 435i and it's terrible run flat tyres barely gripped there but it was a good bit of fun. The X-Drive i4 is not quite as fun there.

"The i4 remains a better all-rounder than the Tesla Model 3, let down only by its lofty price and the fact it doesn’t have universal access to the US maker’s excellent Supercharger network. Supremely refined, lightning quick and filled with well integrated, intuitive tech, the only reason not to buy an i4 M60 is because the eDrive35 is 99 per cent as capable – all for £20k less."

Autocar managed 0-100 MPH in 7.9 sec......exactly the same as a Jaguar XJ220.

When did the humble grocery getter become so quick?

[tunnie]

Never really looked at the 0-100 stat, some figures there. Explains the g-forces on my head when I use launch control away from the lights at Sainsburys