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[Migalot]

In part. If the best that our wet fag, I mean rag, of an excuse for a leader can muster is two facelifted Lynx and 4 Typhoons, then we may as well give up.

We shouldn't be involved at all.
Iran is not our concern, same goes for Ukraine. "That wet rag" of which you speak, is a globalist and still thinks–wrongly—that the UK has place on the world stage. We don't and we should just accept that. No way should our armed forces be used to fight foreign wars that the general public do not support.

Former US Ambassador Chas Freeman says diplomacy, not war, is the way to conduct foreign policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS_9Jp0Htg4

[STEMO]

In part. If the best that our wet fag, I mean rag, of an excuse for a leader can muster is two facelifted Lynx and 4 Typhoons, then we may as well give up.

We shouldn't be involved at all.
Iran is not our concern, same goes for Ukraine. "That wet rag" of which you speak, is a globalist and still thinks–wrongly—that the UK has place on the world stage. We don't and we should just accept that. No way should our armed forces be used to fight foreign wars that the general public do not support.

Former US Ambassador Chas Freeman says diplomacy, not war, is the way to conduct foreign policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS_9Jp0Htg4

What is it you actually do? Trawl the internet until you find some nobody to agree with you? Grow up, and face up to the real world, not the one you wish it was.

[ronnyd]

It's emerging that one of the reasons that HMS Dragon's departure to Cyprus is delayed is because the Govt reduced the dockworkers hours to save money.

They've gone from 24/7 operations to 9 to 5/Mon to Friday.     So that's possibly one of the reasons why the rest of the fleet is tied up alongside as well.... 

You'd think that in this day and age they could work from home. 

If you were a drone operator you probably could.

Very good, Ron 

I do sometimes manage periods of lucidity Steve. 

[Migalot]

In part. If the best that our wet fag, I mean rag, of an excuse for a leader can muster is two facelifted Lynx and 4 Typhoons, then we may as well give up.

We shouldn't be involved at all.
Iran is not our concern, same goes for Ukraine. "That wet rag" of which you speak, is a globalist and still thinks–wrongly—that the UK has place on the world stage. We don't and we should just accept that. No way should our armed forces be used to fight foreign wars that the general public do not support.

Former US Ambassador Chas Freeman says diplomacy, not war, is the way to conduct foreign policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS_9Jp0Htg4

What is it you actually do? Trawl the internet until you find some nobody to agree with you? Grow up, and face up to the real world, not the one you wish it was.

I listen to and watch real people who have knowledge and experience of the real world, unlike you.