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Started by STEMO, 17 April 2026, 11:54:08

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STEMO

You're a very fart smeller, is this really as dangerous as people are making out?

Finance ministers and top bankers raise serious concerns about Mythos AI model https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2ev24yx4rmo
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STEMO

Should I be emptying my bank account and stuffing my mattress? (Well.....small pillow anyway)?  ;D
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TheBoy

AI is currently mainly hype currently.  Thats the type of AI that people call AI at the moment, what are technically LLMs, such as ChatGPT, CoPilot, Gemini etc.

All they do is learn on exist datasets, and combine and format it into usable chucks of data.

In the case of computer security vulnerabilities, this is no different.  For the most part, AI driven vulnerability checkers take known previous flaws and check against them - essentially no different to what old school hacking toolkits used to do. Ultimately it needs clever hackers to find bugs in the first place, and work out exploits, though AI may be able to better chain various exploits to create a viable way to compromise anything.

With open source, there is a security risk in that these LLMs can be trained on source code, and use this to find programming mistakes. This is nothing new, just AI is easier for the lazy script kiddies to run, and will be more flexible than the old toolkits they used to use.

Sadly, mostly with open source, AI is generating a lot of spurious bug reports to the software developers, causing real bug reports to get lost/downgraded/closed in amongst all the fake dross.  This is probably the biggest worry of all.


It remains the case that the easiest way to hack systems is to target the organic crap between the keyboard and chair.  AI can create some convincing words for that.  And, as a top notch security guy once told us, those that think they can't be duped are generally the easiest to dupe.
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TheBoy

And the high profile compromises over the last year - think M&S, Coop and JLR - have all initially been some form of social engineering, and all were aimed at the crown jewels of most enterprises, Active Directory.
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TheBoy

I would add that more large enterprises will get compromised due to modern process frameworks and a reliance on sub contracted IT support contracts.

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STEMO

Thanks....I think. I do wish that news outlets, with really no idea about the nuts and bolts, would stop scaremongering. But I guess it sells clicks.
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TheBoy

TBH, most of this frantic shite about this has been due to a press release from the company who own the model, which says it's not releasing out into the wild initially.

It's good business for them to create a lot of hype for a otherwise little known AI model.
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STEMO

Quote from: TheBoy on 18 April 2026, 11:07:16
TBH, most of this frantic shite about this has been due to a press release from the company who own the model, which says it's not releasing out into the wild initially.

It's good business for them to create a lot of hype for a otherwise little known AI model.

Isn't an Anthropic AI model being embedded into the NHS digital infrastructure as we speak?
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tunnie

Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(

STEMO

Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 14:28:00
Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(
How many bodies is 50%?
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Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 14:28:00
Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(

Imagine where it will be a decade from now.

STEMO

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2026, 16:13:24
Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 14:28:00
Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(

Imagine where it will be a decade from now.
Shame you won't be around to see it  :(
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tunnie

Quote from: STEMO on 29 April 2026, 16:13:10
Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 14:28:00
Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(
How many bodies is 50%?

Android is going from 10 to 3
iOS is going from 7 to 3

But I'll gain a few from more bodies from some cheaper countries, making it over-all ~50%, although that is just developers. That does not include my other Mangers (5) that I have reporting into me or my QA (App Testing) Team.

:(

I have a sneaky feeling I'll be for the chop this time next year, I'm fully aware I'm middle-management bloat and there are way to many of us now they are doing this down sizing.

AI is powerful, even this useless student is making some fairly decent production level code changes.  :o

STEMO

Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 19:18:01
Quote from: STEMO on 29 April 2026, 16:13:10
Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 14:28:00
Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(
How many bodies is 50%?

Android is going from 10 to 3
iOS is going from 7 to 3

But I'll gain a few from more bodies from some cheaper countries, making it over-all ~50%, although that is just developers. That does not include my other Mangers (5) that I have reporting into me or my QA (App Testing) Team.

:(

I have a sneaky feeling I'll be for the chop this time next year, I'm fully aware I'm middle-management bloat and there are way to many of us now they are doing this down sizing.

AI is powerful, even this useless student is making some fairly decent production level code changes.  :o
Useless student? That was a while ago, middle management bloat now, apparently  ;D
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Varche

Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 19:18:01
Quote from: STEMO on 29 April 2026, 16:13:10
Quote from: tunnie on 29 April 2026, 14:28:00
Claude is our choice at work, it's been quite impressive. So much so they are laying off 50% of my teams  ;(
How many bodies is 50%?

Android is going from 10 to 3
iOS is going from 7 to 3

But I'll gain a few from more bodies from some cheaper countries, making it over-all ~50%, although that is just developers. That does not include my other Mangers (5) that I have reporting into me or my QA (App Testing) Team.

:(

I have a sneaky feeling I'll be for the chop this time next year, I'm fully aware I'm middle-management bloat and there are way to many of us now they are doing this down sizing.

AI is powerful, even this useless student is making some fairly decent production level code changes.  :o

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