Hurray peace at last!

[Varche]

We all know it hasn't gone to plan for Donald. Even Trump himself.

Four to six week war that lasted months. Plunged innocent countries into inflation.
Hasn't got control of Israel . Got the Straits of Hormuz closed when before they were open. Laughed at Obamas solution and yet now he hasn't even got Obamas solution at a fraction of the price

Even the most dyed in the wool Trump admirer must see the epic scale of blunder.

Maybe he should just have left the Middle East to kill each other

Just for fun. Here is my prediction. Within a hundred days the Straits will be closed again.

[Sir Tigger KC]

We all know it hasn't gone to plan for Donald. Even Trump himself.

Four to six week war that lasted months. Plunged innocent countries into inflation.
Hasn't got control of Israel . Got the Straits of Hormuz closed when before they were open. Laughed at Obamas solution and yet now he hasn't even got Obamas solution at a fraction of the price

Even the most dyed in the wool Trump admirer must see the epic scale of blunder.

Maybe he should just have left the Middle East to kill each other

Just for fun. Here is my prediction. Within a hundred days the Straits will be closed again.

This is probably what will happen now. 

Hezbollah will carry on attacking Israel, who will react predictably, which will lead the Ayatollahs to attack Israel, who will react predictably and the cycle will continue.....

If anything good comes of this, is that Xi sees Putin and Trumpy's military adventures turn to shite and that gives him pause for thought about invading Taiwan. 

[TheBoy]

Thing is, all the people judging and throwing their expert opinions around like confetti haven't made any attempt to tried to solve the situation, let alone come up with anything resembling a solution.

Has it gone to plan for Donald? Only he knows, but at least he's had a stab at it, which is more than most.

Even his strongest supporters must see this as a disaster for him.  It shows he has no balls. Its left the region less safe, and arguably most of Europe less safe.

I mostly like what he has done for his country, but he's shit his binful on this one.

[STEMO]

Oh dear

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-deal-tehran-pakistan-strait-hormuz-blockade-13509565

[Varche]

Well my forecast took only two days. 

Now what ?

Vance blame it on someone, anyone.

Trump swear at NettingYahoo! again on the phone but confirms we have a big beautiful peace.

Hegseth blames it on Europe NATO.

Operation Epic Fury 2.0 anyone?

[TheBoy]

Operation Epic Fury 2.0 anyone?

As the old adage goes, if a job is worth doing....


Trumpy really made a half arsed job of it.  Didn't help out lot were too scared to make any decision (or have anything that works)

[Sir Tigger KC]

Well if Hezbollah keep lobbing stuff at Israel what do they expect?     

As I understand it, there was nothing in Trumpy's deal that required the Ayatollahs to stop funding and equipping their proxy militias.     

Which is kinda dumb. 

[LC0112G]

The whole thing is dumb. The deal allows Hezbollah to drive a wedge between the US and Israel. Trump will get annoyed at Israel for retaliating against Lebanon, and the world will get annoyed at Trump for causing a war that has cut off their oil supplies. And the Ayatollahs in Iran are as strong as they ever were.

Meanwhile, the US do seem to be withdrawing from the middle east - around 20 KC-135 and KC-46 tankers have left the sand pit on the way home in the past 2 days with no replacements heading the other way. And last weekend 11 A-10 tank buster aircraft passed through the UK on their way home.

[Varche]

Chicken and egg situation. Who lobbed first?

We have been conditioned to accept the Israelis are the good guys and the rest by definition are the bad guys.

Maybe Trump has something when he says Syria can moderate Hezbollah? You never know.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Apparently Greenland are now asking Trump to attack them, having seen the deal Iran has got from him. 

[LC0112G]

One wonders if anyone in the White House has ever watched the film "The Mouse that Roared", starring the late great Peter Sellars.

[Varche]

Apparently Greenland are now asking Trump to attack them, having seen the deal Iran has got from him. 

Lol , and Cuba

[Doctor Gollum]

Chicken and egg situation. Who lobbed first?

We have been conditioned to accept the Israelis are the good guys and the rest by definition are the bad guys.

Maybe Trump has something when he says Syria can moderate Hezbollah? You never know.

Not really. Hezbollah and Hamas both have a single purpose. To remove Israel and every last Israeli from the planet.

This is non negotiable and indefensible.

Imagine if the Republic of Ireland decided that Northern Ireland its population had no right to exist and their sole goal was to obliterate Northern Ireland from history.

Would Northern Ireland have the right to proactively defend itself?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Thats already happened. It was trying to defend itself but Bliar sold it down the river.
Tragically, there is now a decent chance Norn Irn will cease to exist in my lifetime. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Thats already happened. It was trying to defend itself but Bliar sold it down the river.
Tragically, there is now a decent chance Norn Irn will cease to exist in my lifetime. 

I wonder how much of the recent trouble over migrants has been led by the south?

Using immigration as a reasonable excuse to force the locals to move away