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Passenger door loom removal
« on: 22 June 2026, 14:28:16 »

Following issues with my passenger door window not operating from the passenger switch ( the drivers switch operated all windows mirrors etc correctly), I removed the door card to check all terminals etc. There was no live at all to any of the contacts in the window switch plug. The fact the drivers switch worked OK on the passenger window proved the fault wasn't with the motor / plug.
I removed the large cable plug on the door frame by the A pillar to find water ingress had caused some of the pins/ spade connectors to go green....
The plug itself can be cleaned pretty easily; access to the female connector is poor as it is recessed in the door frame, and with the restriction of the door opening angle makes it very awkward to say the least.
Following a suggestion by cam.in.head, I have some Deoxit D5 on order, but until that arrives, I thought about removing the connector on the door frame and withdrawing it to allow better access to satisfactorily clean it without damaging any pins etc.
I can't see any form of a twist retaining ring or tabs either on the outside or in the door itself etc to release it from the door frame.  Anyone done it, or got suggestions how it can be removed please? I appreciate a strip down and probably the window channels may have to be removed to access it unless there's a simpler way that I haven't spotted...
Removing the door is another option although at this moment is a bit drastic!
Thanks
« Last Edit: 22 June 2026, 14:31:20 by johnnydog »
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #1 on: 22 June 2026, 18:39:27 »

Removing the door is actually easier than trying to access the back of the plug with the dash assembly in place.

The hinge pins are held I with E clips and simply knock out.

Open the window.
Unplug the connector.
Mask the back edge of the wing with the door open and undo the check strap bolt.
Ensure the door is adequately supported, really a two person job.
Remove the clips and knock the pins out.

Unless you unbolt the hinges or wrench on the door, it will go back exactly where it was.

Removing the front wing adds an extra 30 minutes of work but means you can remove the pins with the door supported by the latch... Same process as the rear door.

The alternative is to remove the dashboard.
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #2 on: 22 June 2026, 18:58:00 »

Thanks for the info about how to remove the door (which I have done on several Omegas previously) but it sn't what I asked, by the way.... ::). I also didn't ask about removing the loom from the A pillar into the passenger kick panel area.
I actually asked how to remove the female side of the connector block of the actual door loom which is located on the door frame adjacent to the A pillar. You can see the connector block with the aid of a mirror, and the back of the connector and rubber loom cover inside the door (again using a mirror). Access to both sides is difficult, and I can't see how they are retained in the metal work.
As I suspected and I said in my initial post, probably the easiest way is actually to remove the door.....
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #3 on: 22 June 2026, 19:48:45 »

as i mentioned and looking at your pictures am i missing something here ? the female side is on the plug and the male (pins) are on the door ?  not the other way round hence easier to clean the male  side ???      sorry if im wrong i havnt undone mine to confirm .
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #4 on: 22 June 2026, 19:50:28 »

Removing the dashboard???
Removing the front wing???
I just wanted to know about releasing the wiring loom cnnnection from the front door, not how to strip the car....  :o
Removing the dashboard would serve no useful purpose whatsoever as the loom connection on the door or the hinges are not in line with the dashboard - anywhere.... It certainly doesn't help any aspect of my issue. The A pillar is more in the way for access than anything else.
Removing the wing to remove the door is totally unnecessary as well, and creating work for the sake of it....
Assuming the hinges on the body shell side are bolted to the body, you'd have to strip the dash just to loosen them - again 100% unnecessary.
Doors are easy enough to remove without dismantling the whole car :D
The hinges on any of my Omegas don't have 'E' clips - just the rubber cover over the exposed part of the pin, and push in plug on the opposite end.
I guess you don't know how to release the connector block from the door then? You could have have just said that.... :(
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #5 on: 22 June 2026, 20:01:40 »

as i mentioned and looking at your pictures am i missing something here ? the female side is on the plug and the male (pins) are on the door ?  not the other way round hence easier to clean the nake side ???      sorry if im wrong i havnt undone mine to confirm .

Maybe my non electrical head described the female side (with the pins) as the connector block on the door that recieves the plug, and the male side the plug that pushes into the connector block.
That's my description Chris - I've always thought the male side was the plug that pushes into the recieving connection. Unless I've got it the wrong way round - the pins on the door connector socket are classed as male, being recieved by the push in socket of the loom from the A pillar? Birds and the bees eh??? ;D ;D
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #6 on: 22 June 2026, 20:05:23 »

It's not clear what you are asking? How to unplug the door loom from the A pillar?

If so, the collar rotates slightly, and as it rotates, the plug comes apart.  From memory, there is a red tag that may be in place locking it in position.
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #7 on: 22 June 2026, 20:06:33 »

yes male as in 'sticking out bit' ! and female as in 'hole'  but yes i was thinking the pins would be fairly easy to clean by stippling it with a fine toothbrush type smallwire brush. and can then ve seen if you have got them shiny again .
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #8 on: 22 June 2026, 20:07:27 »

It's not clear what you are asking? How to unplug the door loom from the A pillar?

If so, the collar rotates slightly, and as it rotates, the plug comes apart.  From memory, there is a red tag that may be in place locking it in position.


he wants to know how to remove the fixed connector ftom the door itself
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #9 on: 22 June 2026, 20:09:56 »

It's not clear what you are asking? How to unplug the door loom from the A pillar?

If so, the collar rotates slightly, and as it rotates, the plug comes apart.  From memory, there is a red tag that may be in place locking it in position.


he wants to know how to remove the fixed connector ftom the door itself

That's correct Chris :y :y
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #10 on: 22 June 2026, 20:13:45 »

If you can Chris, would you be able to post the pictures I sent you of the connector block and plug please?
I've never been able to do it on here, although I have no issues with other car forums I contribute to. Not sure why it is so relatively difficult...
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #11 on: 22 June 2026, 20:17:46 »

Ah, OK, that's clearer.  I know I've done it when I've swapped looms, but buggered if I can remember.  It must have been simple/obvious, but the door was on the lawn at the time, giving greater visibility of it.

Sorry I can't help further, it was a fair while ago....
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #12 on: 22 June 2026, 20:19:23 »

I've never been able to do it on here, although I have no issues with other car forums I contribute to. Not sure why it is so relatively difficult...
We lack the space and bandwidth to host photos directly on this site I'm afraid, which is why it's slightly more challenging to post piccies on OOF.
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #13 on: 22 June 2026, 21:11:58 »

Its been a long time since Ive done it but have a vague memory of undoing a couple of screws to release the connector from the door ?  :-\
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Re: Passenger door loom removal
« Reply #14 on: 22 June 2026, 22:51:13 »

Ah, OK, that's clearer.  I know I've done it when I've swapped looms, but buggered if I can remember.  It must have been simple/obvious, but the door was on the lawn at the time, giving greater visibility of it.

Sorry I can't help further, it was a fair while ago....

No problem, thank you  :y
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