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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #15 on: 20 August 2026, 18:14:18 »

My e-golf would do this, I found out when I tried to reverse once with the seatbelt off, it binged at me. Opened the door so I could back up to a low wall - fuŁking thing put itself into park - came to an immediate stop and I nearly knocked myself out on the B pillar.

The air was blue.... ;D

I wish the state wouldn't Nanny & if you want to do something stupid, then you should be allowed to do so ....  ;D ;D ;D

Many years ago, SWMBO's uncle wanted to move the father-in-laws motobility car that was fitted with a LEFT foot throttle. Mother-in-law started to explain but was shot down by said uncle .... been diving 40+ yrs etc etc. Said Uncle was/is a die hard manual user (even has a manual Jaag) so when he tried to dip the clutch he floored the throttle, the open driver's door then grabbed a hedge, which bent the A post!  ::) ::)
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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #16 on: 20 August 2026, 18:27:02 »

My e-golf would do this, I found out when I tried to reverse once with the seatbelt off, it binged at me. Opened the door so I could back up to a low wall - fuŁking thing put itself into park - came to an immediate stop and I nearly knocked myself out on the B pillar.

The air was blue.... ;D

I wish the state wouldn't Nanny & if you want to do something stupid, then you should be allowed to do so ....  ;D ;D ;D

Many years ago, SWMBO's uncle wanted to move the father-in-laws motobility car that was fitted with a LEFT foot throttle. Mother-in-law started to explain but was shot down by said uncle .... been diving 40+ yrs etc etc. Said Uncle was/is a die hard manual user (even has a manual Jaag) so when he tried to dip the clutch he floored the throttle, the open driver's door then grabbed a hedge, which bent the A post!  ::) ::)

And here lies the answer as to why the EPB kicks in and the auto box reverts to Park if you open the door when reverse is selected.  ;D
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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #17 on: 20 August 2026, 19:18:28 »

My e-golf would do this, I found out when I tried to reverse once with the seatbelt off, it binged at me. Opened the door so I could back up to a low wall - fuŁking thing put itself into park - came to an immediate stop and I nearly knocked myself out on the B pillar.

The air was blue.... ;D

I wish the state wouldn't Nanny & if you want to do something stupid, then you should be allowed to do so ....  ;D ;D ;D

Many years ago, SWMBO's uncle wanted to move the father-in-laws motobility car that was fitted with a LEFT foot throttle. Mother-in-law started to explain but was shot down by said uncle .... been diving 40+ yrs etc etc. Said Uncle was/is a die hard manual user (even has a manual Jaag) so when he tried to dip the clutch he floored the throttle, the open driver's door then grabbed a hedge, which bent the A post!  ::) ::)

When I was 14 , I had a BSA bantam for tracking around the forests in N Yorkshire. Those were the days. The throttle cable snapped so:

I put it over the tank frame and connected it to the rear brake  having first disconnected the brake.  The clutch had a habit of vibrating out of the lever bracket unless you held it in place.

Older friend  next door asked if he could borrow it to go to as local farm. His Bonneville was OOO .  I explained the vagaries including front brake a bit violent. He said no problem! A while later he encountered a horse rider.  Went to slow down and clutch cable came adrift.. Applied rear brake and sped up.Applied front brake and shot over the handlebars……………….His mam came round and played holy hell with my mam. She just said , he should have been more careful. Quite right!
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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #18 on: 20 August 2026, 20:09:21 »

My e-golf would do this, I found out when I tried to reverse once with the seatbelt off, it binged at me. Opened the door so I could back up to a low wall - fuŁking thing put itself into park - came to an immediate stop and I nearly knocked myself out on the B pillar.

The air was blue.... ;D

I wish the state wouldn't Nanny & if you want to do something stupid, then you should be allowed to do so ....  ;D ;D ;D

Many years ago, SWMBO's uncle wanted to move the father-in-laws motobility car that was fitted with a LEFT foot throttle. Mother-in-law started to explain but was shot down by said uncle .... been diving 40+ yrs etc etc. Said Uncle was/is a die hard manual user (even has a manual Jaag) so when he tried to dip the clutch he floored the throttle, the open driver's door then grabbed a hedge, which bent the A post!  ::) ::)

When I was 14 , I had a BSA bantam for tracking around the forests in N Yorkshire. Those were the days. The throttle cable snapped so:

I put it over the tank frame and connected it to the rear brake  having first disconnected the brake.  The clutch had a habit of vibrating out of the lever bracket unless you held it in place.

Older friend  next door asked if he could borrow it to go to as local farm. His Bonneville was OOO .  I explained the vagaries including front brake a bit violent. He said no problem! A while later he encountered a horse rider.  Went to slow down and clutch cable came adrift.. Applied rear brake and sped up.Applied front brake and shot over the handlebars……………….His mam came round and played holy hell with my mam. She just said , he should have been more careful. Quite right!
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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2026, 20:17:23 »

Back in the day we had a nerdy friend who was alaways complaining the front brake on his Suzuki AP50 kept squealing upon application.

For a joke we told him to smear the brake shoes (drum brakes) with Castrol LM grease.

To be fair it did stop the brakes from squealing, but there were also consequences when it came to stopping. I seem to remember we found the whole episode amusing. >:D
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« Reply #20 on: 21 August 2026, 22:07:31 »

My e-golf would do this, I found out when I tried to reverse once with the seatbelt off, it binged at me. Opened the door so I could back up to a low wall - fuŁking thing put itself into park - came to an immediate stop and I nearly knocked myself out on the B pillar.

The air was blue.... ;D

This what parking sensors are for.  :-X                                                                                                     ;D ;D ;D
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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #21 on: 22 August 2026, 11:12:41 »

My e-golf would do this, I found out when I tried to reverse once with the seatbelt off, it binged at me. Opened the door so I could back up to a low wall - fuŁking thing put itself into park - came to an immediate stop and I nearly knocked myself out on the B pillar.

The air was blue.... ;D

This what parking sensors are for.  :-X                                                                                                     ;D ;D ;D

My last (and best) Omega 2.6 MV6 came with aftermarket parking sensors, manufactured in the land of the 'slitty eye'

They were uterly hopeless. :-X
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« Reply #22 on: 24 August 2026, 22:06:58 »

2025 BMW i4, I can still drive with out the seatbelt and I can disable all the driving aids via a short cut, takes one tap, but does reset on each engine start.

Speed warning also can be disabled by pressing and holding set, so not to bad.
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« Reply #23 on: 25 August 2026, 07:54:09 »

I think it is only a short step , in theory, to your car issuing you with fines and insurance company alerts for speeding, aggressive driving , jumping red lights etc. However the current reality is that the delineation of speed limits is pretty poor. Plus there would be an awful lot of data to process even with AI.

Roll forward a number of years to when a big chunk of us are gone and there no doubt will be people begging for an autonomous car that removes the angst of driving.
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« Reply #24 on: 25 August 2026, 08:41:38 »


I wish the state wouldn't Nanny & if you want to do something stupid, then you should be allowed to do so ....  ;D ;D ;D

Many years ago, SWMBO's uncle wanted to move the father-in-laws motobility car that was fitted with a LEFT foot throttle. Mother-in-law started to explain but was shot down by said uncle .... been diving 40+ yrs etc etc. Said Uncle was/is a die hard manual user (even has a manual Jaag) so when he tried to dip the clutch he floored the throttle, the open driver's door then grabbed a hedge, which bent the A post!  ::) ::)

That did make me smile! When I was a teenager I did something similar - raced my mates back home and when we got there I rolled my car back because I thought it would be funny to block one of them (on my passenger side) from being able to get out by any means other than climbing out the sunroof. What I didn't think about was my open driver's door and my other mate's car just behind me. I didn't damage the door (much) but did bust the headlight on his mini for him  :-[ ;D



And here lies the answer as to why the EPB kicks in and the auto box reverts to Park if you open the door when reverse is selected.  ;D

On the flip side, I've reversed plenty of trailers in farm yards during my time (usually tight and littered with equipment or other assorted farming cr@p) and without being able to open the door and lean out, whether the trailer hits something or not would be a matter of guesswork.
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Re: nannying new cars
« Reply #25 on: 25 August 2026, 18:40:54 »

2025 BMW i4, I can still drive with out the seatbelt and I can disable all the driving aids via a short cut, takes one tap, but does reset on each engine start.
This is common on most cars now, as kinda, sorta legal IF the driver sets up the shortcut.  I doubt it will be allowed to continue, that's not the direction that things are going, sadly.
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« Reply #26 on: 25 August 2026, 19:58:05 »

I think there is a common tweak to be able to code the car to 'remember my last settings' but I'm not about to code a lease car and the new acquisition dates from a time before such nonsense  8)

Edit: it does have an annoying seat belt bong though, from the moment you start it up. I'd like to switch that off!
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« Reply #27 on: 26 August 2026, 22:12:59 »

I think there is a common tweak to be able to code the car to 'remember my last settings' but I'm not about to code a lease car and the new acquisition dates from a time before such nonsense  8)

Edit: it does have an annoying seat belt bong though, from the moment you start it up. I'd like to switch that off!

As I’ve previously mentioned, DIY coding will sadly be a thing of the past with new models. More and more car manufacturers are installing Secure Gateway Diagnostic Protection, which requires permission from and payment to an authorised dealer before any coding can take place. There are various variations of the protection name but they’re usually something like SGW (various manufacturers) or SGF (VAG). The secure gateway diagnostic protection is a digital barrier between the OBD port and CAN bus.
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« Reply #28 on: 27 August 2026, 13:40:58 »


As I’ve previously mentioned, DIY coding will sadly be a thing of the past with new models. More and more car manufacturers are installing Secure Gateway Diagnostic Protection, which requires permission from and payment to an authorised dealer before any coding can take place.

That would be a hard No from me as an ownership proposition outside of a lease. Falls firmly into the same bucket as renting heated seats, bucket marked: "bullsh!t I want no part of"  ;D
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« Reply #29 on: 27 August 2026, 14:07:38 »


As I’ve previously mentioned, DIY coding will sadly be a thing of the past with new models. More and more car manufacturers are installing Secure Gateway Diagnostic Protection, which requires permission from and payment to an authorised dealer before any coding can take place.

That would be a hard No from me as an ownership proposition outside of a lease. Falls firmly into the same bucket as renting heated seats, bucket marked: "bullsh!t I want no part of"  ;D

BMW scrapped the idea of subscriptions for additional toys that were already fitted to the vehicle after severe backlash.  ::)  For some strange reason, they received very little uptake for their stupid marketing idea.  ;D
Just to clarify, the person applying for permission to code past the SGW block also has to be registered, not just any Tom, Dick or Harry.  :y
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