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[hotel21]

I get the impression some are looking for someone to flame, tonight?

not from me.  as stated, I read the first post then replied as per.  Did now read all in between (now I have) before posting my initial reply.

Gues it was a Police vehicle you were in?  In that case, its a corporate responsibility issue, not the fault of the driver??

[JamesV6CDX]

I get the impression some are looking for someone to flame, tonight?

not from me.  as stated, I read the first post then replied as per.  Did now read all in between (now I have) before posting my initial reply.

Gues it was a Police vehicle you were in?  In that case, its a corporate responsibility issue, not the fault of the driver??

Brucie - comment wasn't aimed at you

AFAIK, it was leased/hired from somewhere....

[TheBoy]

I get the impression some are looking for someone to flame, tonight?

There have been threads posted about members travelling at near on 140mph which clearly WASN'T on a private track ( http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1185116237/40 )

Nobody got flamed for this, but seem very keen to split hairs over a few MPH in a van.

I don't pretend to know everything - I don't, far from it. But, it would be nice if things could be kept a little more civil and friendly, as per the nature of this forum.

You forget, I have (limited) access to a runway, about 12000ft iirc.  So there is every possibility it may have been there

Can't remember the exact incident - you dug up a 15 month old thread, I can't remember what happened last week, let alone then

[Vamps]

i think even without a limiter with 18 people onboard it was barley going to touch 60 anyway!  

My old transit that I had for work, which on a weighbridge breached 3t (even though max gross weight was supposed to be 2.8t), and with 2 ladders on the roof, would sit at a ton all day long up and down the M1.

That was a K reg 2.5 non turbo diesel, and was certainly no slouch.

Transits handle reasonably well, but will bite you if you overcook it, usually with no warning - the number of times I had mine facing the wrong way

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Only managed that once, coming down a hill with a broken down tanker on my side of the road, touched the brakes, did a full 360........ one of those sh1te........ moments

Driven a lot of transist, ofer the years, mostly petrol and all good for 90 or more, Mk 1's 2's and 3's.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

This thread is obviously only including and allowing for male comment over an obsession for speed in no matter what is being driven, where, the road conditions, and the fact that you are talking about 16 passengers (YES 16 as minbuses are limited to 17 including the driver!)  who could well be children as in the case I mentioned posts ago of me driving minibuses.

I will now say no more as this will be ignored like my other posts in this thread anyway!!

Going to bed; good night!

[hotel21]

Broocie, just out of interest, what would your view be on limiting cars in a simelar way?

As I have explained in other posts, I say ABOUT 18, because some travelled by car and I don't know the exact number.

Everyone had a seat and belt though, so I don't think we were over...

Cars are already limited to 158 mph, if I recall.  You know the uproar that causes at the moment, imagine taking it to 70??  Especially if the Autobahn (non) limit is still available?

As long as each seat had an arse on it and none left over, than thats the 'about 18' covered....  

[JamesV6CDX]

I get the impression some are looking for someone to flame, tonight?

There have been threads posted about members travelling at near on 140mph which clearly WASN'T on a private track ( http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1185116237/40 )

Nobody got flamed for this, but seem very keen to split hairs over a few MPH in a van.

I don't pretend to know everything - I don't, far from it. But, it would be nice if things could be kept a little more civil and friendly, as per the nature of this forum.

You forget, I have (limited) access to a runway, about 12000ft iirc.  So there is every possibility it may have been there

Can't remember the exact incident - you dug up a 15 month old thread, I can't remember what happened last week, let alone then

Of course, the runway... how could I forget

Come on guys, we've all driven badly at SOME point, let's be friends eh

As an aside, we've been discussing speed, but there are so many other factors also - distance, conditions, state of the vehicle, driver impairments...

Speed alone doesn't usually kill...

[CaptainZok]

Sounds like your judging all vans from your experience of one there Tunnie.
Those I've driven in recent years and by nature of my job there's been a fair variety have in the main been able to keep up with or exceed the flow of traffic as TB says in some cases by quite a margin.
Can't say I'm in favour of limiters myself, much more to be gained by driver training so the vehicle is driven at the correct speed for the conditions rather than some arbitary limit set by the limiter.

[LaserLance]

This thread is obviously only including and allowing for male comment over an obsession for speed in no matter what is being driven, where, the road conditions, and the fact that you are talking about 16 passengers (YES 16 as minbuses are limited to 17 including the driver!)  who could well be children as in the case I mentioned posts ago of me driving minibuses.

I will now say no more as this will be ignored like my other posts in this thread anyway!!

Going to bed; good night!

Lizzie when has anyone not taken heed of your posts ? you speak a lot of sense and are a font of knowledge  

[JamesV6CDX]

This thread is obviously only including and allowing for male comment over an obsession for speed in no matter what is being driven, where, the road conditions, and the fact that you are talking about 16 passengers (YES 16 as minbuses are limited to 17 including the driver!)  who could well be children as in the case I mentioned posts ago of me driving minibuses.

I will now say no more as this will be ignored like my other posts in this thread anyway!!

Going to bed; good night!

What's this male/female thing you speak of?

*confused*

[TheBoy]

i think even without a limiter with 18 people onboard it was barley going to touch 60 anyway!  

My old transit that I had for work, which on a weighbridge breached 3t (even though max gross weight was supposed to be 2.8t), and with 2 ladders on the roof, would sit at a ton all day long up and down the M1.

That was a K reg 2.5 non turbo diesel, and was certainly no slouch.

Transits handle reasonably well, but will bite you if you overcook it, usually with no warning - the number of times I had mine facing the wrong way

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Only managed that once, coming down a hill with a broken down tanker on my side of the road, touched the brakes, did a full 360........ one of those sh1te........ moments

Driven a lot of transist, ofer the years, mostly petrol and all good for 90 or more, Mk 1's 2's and 3's.

I've had a few 360s.  Also had an 'interesting' one down the lanes near Thame, when I overcooked a chicane, the back whipped round quicker than I could catch it, and ended up sideways on the single track road, with front bumper on bank, and rear step on other bank, and 4 wheels virtually off the road.  Good job I carried a spade, took me about 2hrs to dig it out  

[Vamps]

I get the impression some are looking for someone to flame, tonight?

not from me.  as stated, I read the first post then replied as per.  Did now read all in between (now I have) before posting my initial reply.

Gues it was a Police vehicle you were in?  In that case, its a corporate responsibility issue, not the fault of the driver??

Brucie - comment wasn't aimed at you

AFAIK, it was leased/hired from somewhere....

Still the responsibility of the Police if they hired it.

Might be a Hire car thing then, I drove a hired ldv, brand new 3 years ago, ford engine iirc and it was painfully slow.

[albitz]

Broocie, just out of interest, what would your view be on limiting cars in a simelar way?

As I have explained in other posts, I say ABOUT 18, because some travelled by car and I don't know the exact number.

Everyone had a seat and belt though, so I don't think we were over...

Cars are already limited to 158 mph, if I recall.  You know the uproar that causes at the moment, imagine taking it to 70??  Especially if the Autobahn (non) limit is still available?

As long as each seat had an arse on it and none left over, than thats the 'about 18' covered....  

afaik its only the german (saloon) cars which are restricted,under a voluntary agreement to appease the the h&s/tree hugging lobby.  :-/

[TheBoy]

I get the impression some are looking for someone to flame, tonight?

There have been threads posted about members travelling at near on 140mph which clearly WASN'T on a private track ( http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1185116237/40 )

Nobody got flamed for this, but seem very keen to split hairs over a few MPH in a van.

I don't pretend to know everything - I don't, far from it. But, it would be nice if things could be kept a little more civil and friendly, as per the nature of this forum.

You forget, I have (limited) access to a runway, about 12000ft iirc.  So there is every possibility it may have been there

Can't remember the exact incident - you dug up a 15 month old thread, I can't remember what happened last week, let alone then

Of course, the runway... how could I forget

Come on guys, we've all driven badly at SOME point, let's be friends eh

As an aside, we've been discussing speed, but there are so many other factors also - distance, conditions, state of the vehicle, driver impairments...

Speed alone doesn't usually kill...

Don't think you've been there  :-/ - was going to be venue for last cambelt party, but we had trouble getting that many people onsite, plus Timbuk came up trumps with his unit.

Speed doesn't kill, its the rapid slowdown that kills.

[hotel21]

Broocie, just out of interest, what would your view be on limiting cars in a simelar way?

As I have explained in other posts, I say ABOUT 18, because some travelled by car and I don't know the exact number.

Everyone had a seat and belt though, so I don't think we were over...

Cars are already limited to 158 mph, if I recall.  You know the uproar that causes at the moment, imagine taking it to 70??  Especially if the Autobahn (non) limit is still available?

As long as each seat had an arse on it and none left over, than thats the 'about 18' covered....  

afaik its only the german (saloon) cars which are restricted,under a voluntary agreement to appease the the h&s/tree hugging lobby.  :-/

Dont think so.  Agreement is between all mainline manufacturers, as far as I understand it.....