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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #15 on: 22 November 2008, 19:24:37 »

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Am I the first to get my £6.50 paid?

Of course, I paid the paypal fee. I don't want to have an invalid ticket...  :o

C'mon people - I am in a raffle of 1 right now...  :) ;D 8-)

Yep - you are indeed the first.

Doesn't matter how many I do or don't get - it will go ahead anyway -

But if nobody else signs up, then Bandit is getting a cheap cambelt kit change  ;D
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #16 on: 22 November 2008, 19:55:18 »

Compromise.?

What ifa 2.6 owner supplies the kit then that saves you money and gives the 2.6 owner a free Cambelt service.

Also what about people over 100 miles from you, what if they paid the extra traveling costs.

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Can the winner from anywhere in the country  meet up with you at one of the meets and recieve thier prize at a later date?

Just a few ideas which may well in turn raise more money. :y :y

I am happy to buy a ticket for the sake of the charity (please PM the details) but sadly live more than 100 miles from you.
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #17 on: 22 November 2008, 19:55:26 »

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Am I the first to get my £6.50 paid?

Of course, I paid the paypal fee. I don't want to have an invalid ticket...  :o

C'mon people - I am in a raffle of 1 right now...  :) ;D 8-)

Yep - you are indeed the first.

Doesn't matter how many I do or don't get - it will go ahead anyway -

But if nobody else signs up, then Bandit is getting a cheap cambelt kit change  ;D

If only mine was in a fit state to get to Cheltenham.....really must put aside some time to track down a local mechanic for Mr Thrust Washer
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #18 on: 22 November 2008, 19:57:19 »

my car doesn't have a cambelt and i dont have a paypal account but if i buy a ticket and win can i auction it off and pass on the proceeds to the cause?
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #19 on: 22 November 2008, 20:14:37 »

James....  

Whilst I commend the concept behind the ideal, I would recheck the legalities of a lottery on an internet forum, particularly given your 'own time' interests....  
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #20 on: 22 November 2008, 20:30:00 »

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:y :y :y

No Cem, you can't buy a ticket ;D

 :'( :'(

seriously congrats for this brave job :y
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« Reply #21 on: 22 November 2008, 20:35:23 »

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James....  

Whilst I commend the concept behind the ideal, I would recheck the legalities of a lottery on an internet forum, particularly given your 'own time' interests....  

I think neither James nor people get money so no lottery imho.. :-/

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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #22 on: 22 November 2008, 20:44:16 »

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James....  

Whilst I commend the concept behind the ideal, I would recheck the legalities of a lottery on an internet forum, particularly given your 'own time' interests....  

I think neither James nor people get money so no lottery imho.. :-/

Cem - the word 'lottery' has a legal meaning in UK legislation.  To purchase a 'ticket' (or a chance to win a competition) must have some legal safeguards for all parties involved.  To my eye, the method that is suggested in this thread is outside the law and thus leaves all involed (including OOF as the facilitators) liable to prosecution.  I ask that James verifies all legalities before continuing....
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #23 on: 22 November 2008, 20:49:49 »

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James....  

Whilst I commend the concept behind the ideal, I would recheck the legalities of a lottery on an internet forum, particularly given your 'own time' interests....  

I think neither James nor people get money so no lottery imho.. :-/

Cem - the word 'lottery' has a legal meaning in UK legislation.  To purchase a 'ticket' (or a chance to win a competition) must have some legal safeguards for all parties involved.  To my eye, the method that is suggested in this thread is outside the law and thus leaves all involed (including OOF as the facilitators) liable to prosecution.  I ask that James verifies all legalities before continuing....

Ack = wasn't aware there would be any inplications of this nature, given the business is insured for such activities, and the post clearly states OOF has no involvement in this  :-[

I must be honest, in as much as I didn't forsee a legal issue - but, please note this is currently "on hold" until checked out further.

If it transpires that we cannot proceed, I will refund the two members who have participated...

Brucie - please can you drop me a PM with the specific bit of legislation you're concerned about?

Cheers
James



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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #24 on: 22 November 2008, 20:57:34 »

The following link, whist not directly to legislation, does give a laypersons summation of the processes and requirements involved...

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/pdfs/fs190025.pdf

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« Reply #25 on: 22 November 2008, 21:05:38 »

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The following link, whist not directly to legislation, does give a laypersons summation of the processes and requirements involved...

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/library/hqdocs/facts/pdfs/fs190025.pdf

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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #26 on: 22 November 2008, 21:10:41 »

Ok - it was a nice thought, but unfortunately this isn't going to proceed.

The one person who has participated (paid) has been refunded in full.

Must say - I thought it would be ok, based on the fact there is no cash prize, and given that it was clearly stated that it was I running this, and in no way affiliated OOF, I couldn't see how OOF could be responsible for anything.

I don't have time to check it out in great detail, so although a nice idea, unfortunately this little fundraising charity idea will now not go ahead.

In the scheme of things, it would just be easier if I donate some cash to charity  :y
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #27 on: 22 November 2008, 21:10:49 »

Hotel21. Would James avoid the legal obligations on himself and the forum by calling it a 'raffle'?

Only, I like the idea of what he is doing - even if it does get him some free publicity. Surely that's what charity is about.



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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #28 on: 22 November 2008, 21:13:00 »

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Hotel21. Would James avoid the legal obligations on himself and the forum by calling it a 'raffle'?

Only, I like the idea of what he is doing - even if it does get him some free publicity. Surely that's what charity is about.




I thought seeing as it was privately run by me with all proceeds to charity it would be OK. I will take Broocie's advice on this one, and call it off.

It's not free publicity. It would cost me at least £100 for the bits and travel alone. I could get a newspaper ad for that. It was literally all geared up for charity.

Therefore, just easier if I donate that directly to charity, and avoid the work :y
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Re: Cancer Research Raffle, Win a V6 cambelt change!
« Reply #29 on: 22 November 2008, 21:18:58 »

Its the kind of thing that would work well if done at an OOF meet, whereby raffle tickets (cloakroom tickets) are purchased for the main prize which is drawn on the day.  Anything else (subject to some more precise knowledge) would require legal permissions....

I really do not want to be the baddy in the matter - I have more personal knowledge of cancer effects than most - but we all must ensure that the collective 'we' which is OOF is not drawn into something that has an effect on what OOF is intended for.

thanks for your understanding.... :y :y
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