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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #60 on: 29 December 2006, 18:31:22 »

Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues
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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #61 on: 29 December 2006, 18:41:44 »

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Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues

Those OEM licenses require activation, and you can only activate it x number of times (x changes but can be anything from 3 to 50...).

As for legality, the issue is currently highly theoretical as Microsoft do not chase home user (yet)... but strictly speaking it ain't legit.... 'cause your EULA does not permit it.  :)



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« Reply #62 on: 29 December 2006, 18:47:30 »

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Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues

Those OEM licenses require activation, and you can only activate it x number of times (x changes but can be anything from 3 to 50...).

As for legality, the issue is currently highly theoretical as Microsoft do not chase home user (yet)... but strictly speaking it ain't legit.... 'cause your EULA does not permit it.  :)




Solved the issue - I will use the same case!!!!
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« Reply #63 on: 29 December 2006, 18:50:09 »

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Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues

Those OEM licenses require activation, and you can only activate it x number of times (x changes but can be anything from 3 to 50...).

As for legality, the issue is currently highly theoretical as Microsoft do not chase home user (yet)... but strictly speaking it ain't legit.... 'cause your EULA does not permit it.  :)




Solved the issue - I will use the same case!!!!

Martin - are you a Tax Lawyer by any chance?  :o

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« Reply #64 on: 29 December 2006, 18:55:46 »

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Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues

Those OEM licenses require activation, and you can only activate it x number of times (x changes but can be anything from 3 to 50...).

As for legality, the issue is currently highly theoretical as Microsoft do not chase home user (yet)... but strictly speaking it ain't legit.... 'cause your EULA does not permit it.  :)




Solved the issue - I will use the same case!!!!
Nope, still not enough.  If it was OEM (XP Pro), then I'm assuming it is was around £120 ish.  That is a huge saving on the average retail £279.  If you paid more than £120 ish, then, sorry, you were done...

The licence is not transferrable (though possibly will work, depending on other circumstances), so will not be legal.  Thats one of the disadvantages of buying OEM (which, remember, are not for the retail channel).
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« Reply #65 on: 29 December 2006, 19:28:59 »

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Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues

Those OEM licenses require activation, and you can only activate it x number of times (x changes but can be anything from 3 to 50...).

As for legality, the issue is currently highly theoretical as Microsoft do not chase home user (yet)... but strictly speaking it ain't legit.... 'cause your EULA does not permit it.  :)




Solved the issue - I will use the same case!!!!

Martin - are you a Tax Lawyer by any chance?  :o


A programmer!

We have PCs which are ancient but have loads of new parts
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« Reply #66 on: 29 December 2006, 19:39:54 »

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Found all the paperwork - says OEM but I did pay enough for it so I will reuse it - have already reinstalled before due to a MB blow up.

Since it was paid for and not stolen I see no issues

Those OEM licenses require activation, and you can only activate it x number of times (x changes but can be anything from 3 to 50...).

As for legality, the issue is currently highly theoretical as Microsoft do not chase home user (yet)... but strictly speaking it ain't legit.... 'cause your EULA does not permit it.  :)




Solved the issue - I will use the same case!!!!
Nope, still not enough.  If it was OEM (XP Pro), then I'm assuming it is was around £120 ish.  That is a huge saving on the average retail £279.  If you paid more than £120 ish, then, sorry, you were done...

The licence is not transferrable (though possibly will work, depending on other circumstances), so will not be legal.  Thats one of the disadvantages of buying OEM (which, remember, are not for the retail channel).

£120 is enough to pay for a home PC O/S - I think that is what it was about. Anyway case is good will still have the same HDDs as they are fine - just a little small.

It has only been activated twice - once after a few weeks and once after MB failure.

I have had people asking for my numbers so they could install - no thanks it would break mine and trace back to mine.
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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #67 on: 29 December 2006, 19:45:36 »

With similar hardware (the hardware signature) you can activate as many times as you like (the sig is derived from an unspecified formula involving serial numbers of various hardware components)...
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« Reply #68 on: 29 December 2006, 19:50:33 »

Wasnt there summat about how many times you can change the hardware in the pc.....before ms website stops you registering XP....then you have to call them.....this might have changed...as its been a couple of years  :-/
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« Reply #69 on: 29 December 2006, 19:51:56 »

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With similar hardware (the hardware signature) you can activate as many times as you like (the sig is derived from an unspecified formula involving serial numbers of various hardware components)...

You answered my post b4 i posted it  ;D
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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #70 on: 30 December 2006, 15:06:25 »

Wasn't there something in EU law about if a laptop or computer was damaged and broken up then this would 'free up' the software licence for use on another machine (1991 Computer Software Directive, Article 4(C)). I used to fix laptops, and we would take a license from a scrap M/C and transfer it. They tended to be the same make, eg Tosh, Advent, or Tiny.  Didn't have any probs with registering the software (so far...)  Is this why M****soft created the 2 classes OEM and Retail, to get round this?. :)
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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #71 on: 30 December 2006, 16:42:33 »

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Wasn't there something in EU law about if a laptop or computer was damaged and broken up then this would 'free up' the software licence for use on another machine (1991 Computer Software Directive, Article 4(C)). I used to fix laptops, and we would take a license from a scrap M/C and transfer it. They tended to be the same make, eg Tosh, Advent, or Tiny.  Didn't have any probs with registering the software (so far...)  Is this why M****soft created the 2 classes OEM and Retail, to get round this?. :)
MS has been doing OEM type licences since Win 3.1 days (ie early 90s).  With MS, retail licences have always been transferable, OEM haven't.

Whatever the EU beauractic interferring tossers may think, MS should have the right to do as they like, like any other company....
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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #72 on: 30 December 2006, 19:05:59 »

If you read Microsoft's EULA carefully, you will see that they don't actually sell you the software, instead they only give you permission to use it, but they keep the title so can dictate what you can and can't do with it.

In fairness, OEM licenses are not supported by Microsoft hence the justification for a reduced cost compared to the Retail product...



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« Reply #73 on: 30 December 2006, 20:44:51 »

I know what you are saying, like the stupid ROHS rules that will create more waste and unreliable electronics, however as far as MS is concerned "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" :)
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Re: The last moments of my PC
« Reply #74 on: 30 December 2006, 20:52:47 »

Sorry, I don't buy into this "MS are evil" fad, I think they have spent a lot of money creating the best desktop OS, and should be allowed to reap the rewards now...
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