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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #15 on: 02 December 2008, 21:51:56 »

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Make a hard copy of all email traffic with the pictures.
Make a request for the damaged items to be repaired/replaced as needed.
You have the moral high ground now KEEP IT.

Agreed. I would also make a report of everything that's happened and lodge it with the HR department. If things are turning nasty for some reason there needs to be an independant record of events.

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The strange thing is, my boss couldn't go out of her way enough to promise me it was totally innocent.

But, when I asked other colleagues what happened, they said "no idea" even though I later discovered they were present when it was forced.

As for the guy that did it - I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. He's the most unhelpful selfish and spiteful sod I know.


The fact that they are behaving like this indicates that something odd is afoot, IMHO.

If I got in to work and my boss had had urgent need to accesss something he'd suspected to be in my drawers, hadn't been able to contact me and had to break into it, I would expect him to be honest about it. It's a reasonable thing to do IMHO. Denying all knowledge of it indicates something they are trying to hide.

If I were you I would keep everything personal at home and everything work related at work in future. You never know what can happen to your belongings at work. I only have to look at the muppets they employ as cleaners in our place to relaise this. They have a track record of helping themselves to our mobile phones for a start... >:(

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The strange thing is - there was nothing they could really use against me in a work environment.

Things like personal bank statements, although personal, can't really be used against me at work.

She said they were looking for my laptop because they couldn't get any PCs to run visual basic, despite the fact that I'd been clearly told to keep my laptop at home...

I still don't buy it, and I don't buy it wasn't a forced entry.

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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #16 on: 02 December 2008, 21:56:19 »

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if you take it further, will they start to think you actually have something to hide?


It would be up to them to prove that, with nothing evidential at all - photo's of a forced cabinet are not so easily argued with, especially after emails telling me it was just "pulled open"...
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #17 on: 02 December 2008, 21:56:44 »

I guess you'll never know what really happened or what their motives are but you need to keep the moral high ground, as said. Make sure there's nothing they could pin on you while you follow up other employment opportunities. :(

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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #18 on: 02 December 2008, 21:59:22 »

I would look for a new job asap James.I have had stuff like this (and much worse)at work,its very difficult to beat even though you know you have done nothing wrong and it can really eat you up inside.
Life,s too short,if you can find something else,leave them to it.
Just my tuppence worth etc;
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #19 on: 02 December 2008, 22:00:01 »

Why would you keep your bank statements in your office drawer :question
Can't help thinking you are making a mountain out of a molehill ::)
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #20 on: 02 December 2008, 22:01:41 »

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mention your extra-curricular activities to make it clear you know what you are talking about

The guy that broke in has a huge amount of disrespect for what I do - I regularly hear comments about "Pretend Police" and "bloody volunteers" that are useless.

I expect mentioning that would just make me look like I'm abusing position, or throwing my weight around...  I'm inclined to keep the two occupations very seperate  :-/

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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #21 on: 02 December 2008, 22:03:27 »

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Why would you keep your bank statements in your office drawer :question
Can't help thinking you are making a mountain out of a molehill ::)

Quite possibly I am Mike. Hence why I'm asking other views ;)

Why do I keep things in my drawer? Usually, because I grab them on the way out of the house, and open them at work, before I'm due to start.

They then end up in my "filing system..." ;D
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #22 on: 02 December 2008, 22:21:15 »

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mention your extra-curricular activities to make it clear you know what you are talking about

The guy that broke in has a huge amount of disrespect for what I do - I regularly hear comments about "Pretend Police" and "bloody volunteers" that are useless.

I expect mentioning that would just make me look like I'm abusing position, or throwing my weight around...  I'm inclined to keep the two occupations very seperate  :-/


Most definitely separate things James... Best no to mix them IMO :y :y
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #23 on: 02 December 2008, 22:24:38 »

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mention your extra-curricular activities to make it clear you know what you are talking about

The guy that broke in has a huge amount of disrespect for what I do - I regularly hear comments about "Pretend Police" and "bloody volunteers" that are useless.

I expect mentioning that would just make me look like I'm abusing position, or throwing my weight around...  I'm inclined to keep the two occupations very seperate  :-/


Most definitely separate things James... Best no to mix them IMO :y :y

Absolutely...  :y

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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #24 on: 02 December 2008, 22:27:38 »

Are you in stealth mode tonight?
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #25 on: 02 December 2008, 22:29:12 »

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I would look for a new job asap James.I have had stuff like this (and much worse)at work,its very difficult to beat even though you know you have done nothing wrong and it can really eat you up inside.
Life,s too short,if you can find something else,leave them to it.
Just my tuppence worth etc;

Yeah, something political is going on, don't wait to find out, get out soon. Your being feed rubbish. Systems like "proper investigation", "people responsible" etc don't happen in that sort of organisation. Its a different world. Get out while the going's good.

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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #26 on: 02 December 2008, 22:39:21 »

cause and consequences..

when you were decisionless about the job and you tried give up , they

were curious whats going on..

now, it reminds me about what Jereboam tell..

but from the things you tell, I feel still the boss cant decide about you..

so, what will happen from now on purely depends on your relations

with the boss.. but be prepared also..
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #27 on: 02 December 2008, 22:42:21 »

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Why would you keep your bank statements in your office drawer :question
Can't help thinking you are making a mountain out of a molehill ::)

Quite possibly I am Mike. Hence why I'm asking other views ;)

Why do I keep things in my drawer? Usually, because I grab them on the way out of the house, and open them at work, before I'm due to start.

They then end up in my "filing system..." ;D

Tend to agree with Mikes comments!

James my advice to you is to keep your personal stuff, particularly bank statements, at home.  Surely your mail can wait till you get home if you are that much of a rush in the mornings. :-?
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #28 on: 02 December 2008, 22:43:39 »

If this happened to me I would definitely utilise the company grievance procedure - this type of behaviour cannot be condoned in a work place. You should carefully follow the procedure to ensure that not just you - but others are not subject to an invasion of privacy in the future particularly where other colleagues were present and are not saying anything. An enquiry is your right in these circumstances given that it has already been admitted that they attempted to get in the drawer. A disciplinary issue has definitely been created and at least an enquiry will reveal why a person you do not get on with was the one to actually open the drawer. If you do decide to invoke a grievance system it will be a wake up call to all concerned. I say this without knowing the full facts obviously but hope it helps.
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Re: I've solved the desk breakin mystery....
« Reply #29 on: 02 December 2008, 22:56:29 »

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If this happened to me I would definitely utilise the company grievance procedure - this type of behaviour cannot be condoned in a work place. You should carefully follow the procedure to ensure that not just you - but others are not subject to an invasion of privacy in the future particularly where other colleagues were present and are not saying anything. An enquiry is your right in these circumstances given that it has already been admitted that they attempted to get in the drawer. A disciplinary issue has definitely been created and at least an enquiry will reveal why a person you do not get on with was the one to actually open the drawer. If you do decide to invoke a grievance system it will be a wake up call to all concerned. I say this without knowing the full facts obviously but hope it helps.

It is a company set of drawers, not a personal locker..... ::) ::) ::)
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