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[mantahatch]

Have I missed something,  or does this make the real rate of unemployment about 5 million
 http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm

Mike

[HolyCount]

Unemployment figures are really hashed up ---- they have factored out the "students" who get the £30 grant just for attending higher education --- if it were not for the £30 they would be signing on as unemployed too.

There was a blip in the payments system here a little while back and many students said they would not attend college without the money -- which makes me question why they are there in the first place.

There are, of course, many students there to study (who are often held back by those there purely for the sake of £30 and nothing better to do).

And iirc the unemployment figures oft quoted are for those "out of and seeking work"  

[cem_devecioglu]

govt salaried statistical organizations sleep in their chairs and lie..

[Dusty]

How does the saying go .

There are lies ,damn lies ,and statistics. :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

How does the saying go .

There are lies ,damn lies ,and statistics. :-/

clever

[Golfbuddy]

Unemployment figures are measured as those of working age, who are out of work, looking for work and claiming Job Seekers' Allowance. The true 'unemployment' figure is closer to 30 million.

In other words, there are about 29 million people in the UK who are in paid employment.

[mantahatch]

Unemployment figures are measured as those of working age, who are out of work, looking for work and claiming Job Seekers' Allowance. The true 'unemployment' figure is closer to 30 million.

In other words, there are about 29 million people in the UK who are in paid employment.

Agreed, but remove anyone under 16 and everyone over 65, subtract the few people who don't have to work(lottery winners etc) subtract the few parents who choose to give up work to look after young kids but are not claiming benefits. what does that leave ?

[Golfbuddy]

Unemployment figures are measured as those of working age, who are out of work, looking for work and claiming Job Seekers' Allowance. The true 'unemployment' figure is closer to 30 million.

In other words, there are about 29 million people in the UK who are in paid employment.

Agreed, but remove anyone under 16 and everyone over 65, subtract the few people who don't have to work(lottery winners etc) subtract the few parents who choose to give up work to look after young kids but are not claiming benefits. what does that leave ?

Do you remember, when the Conservatives were last in power, Dennis Skinner MP used to stand up every week and give John Major hell about the way they measured unemployment. I haven't heard his loud gob for a while!