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[TheBoy]

not to be a snake in the grass and mess your sales up but have you seen the price of both laptops and pc's on bigpockets
they got some cheap good deals on there

I bought Mrs TheBoy an HP 6820s,2G cellery, 1G RAM, 120G HDD, ATI discreet vga, 17" screen, dvd writer with lightscribe about 2 months ago. £228 delivered. Decent machine, though big due to screen.

[JamesV6CDX]

My Dell Inspiron, with a gig of Ram, 17" screen, 160gb hard drive, wireless, DVD reader and CD writer - really good machine - cost me £100  

[Bacon Butty Man]

got some nice toshiba 4300's, for £85, all p3, 600+ mhz, 128 ram, if any one interested

[JamesV6CDX]

got some nice toshiba 4300's, for £85, all p3, 600+ mhz, 128 ram, if any one interested

Will that really run XP without falling over?

[TheBoy]

got some nice toshiba 4300's, for £85, all p3, 600+ mhz, 128 ram, if any one interested

Will that really run XP without falling over?

it will run xp and (unless faulty) won't fall over.

It will run like a dog, and won't run anything else, but it won't fall over

[Bacon Butty Man]

got some nice toshiba 4300's, for £85, all p3, 600+ mhz, 128 ram, if any one interested

Will that really run XP without falling over?

yes they handle xp ok, its all in the tweaking, when xp was released it was a fat olf barstuard, but now you can install xp on a low spec machine ok.
i have just sold two tosh's in last 30 mins, lol, got a nice one here, dvd rom, 256 ram, small hdd tho, 6 gb, can be cheaply upgraded tho, they were standard 6 gb new,

[JamesV6CDX]

What sort of tweaking do you do - increasing swap files to try and compensate for low ram, etc? Or stripped down installations (essential stuff only) / removing things from startup routine?

I don't disbelieve you - I've just struggled to make any modern apps usable on those machines

[TheBoy]

What sort of tweaking do you do - increasing swap files to try and compensate for low ram, etc? Or stripped down installations (essential stuff only) / removing things from startup routine?

I don't disbelieve you - I've just struggled to make any modern apps usable on those machines

remove the AV software is a good start

[hotel21]

Hotel21 - I guess I know what for.  The one I use is about the minimum spec I would recommend (PIII 650, 256Mb RAM, XP SP3,com port, decent battery life) for that use.  Its an old Dell CPJ iirc, complete with failing (for 8yrs!) HDD

Saying that, I have a couple of knackered CPi's that you may be able to get one decent one out of - yours if you want them.

I think MDTM has by other one I used for that role - a PIII 1G, 256Mb, and a battery that keeps bruising your foot

Correct....  

Any and all lumps of suitable plastic and expensive rare metals suitably appreciated....  

As for the battery - is that not what gaffer tape is for?

[Bacon Butty Man]

What sort of tweaking do you do - increasing swap files to try and compensate for low ram, etc? Or stripped down installations (essential stuff only) / removing things from startup routine?

I don't disbelieve you - I've just struggled to make any modern apps usable on those machines

basically, all you do is take all the fancy settings out of xp, right click on my computer, click on the advanced tab, then performance button, then check the ajust for best performance option, apply then ok, it speeds up the lappy and there you go, works on all xp pc's, if i get an machine that wont take it at all, then i simply install win 2000, but only had to do that once, obviously it wont be as fast as a new machine, if you can live with it, then you will be a happy bunny

[JamesV6CDX]

What sort of tweaking do you do - increasing swap files to try and compensate for low ram, etc? Or stripped down installations (essential stuff only) / removing things from startup routine?

I don't disbelieve you - I've just struggled to make any modern apps usable on those machines

basically, all you do is take all the fancy settings out of xp, right click on my computer, click on the advanced tab, then performance button, then check the ajust for best performance option, apply then ok, it speeds up the lappy and there you go, works on all xp pc's, if i get an machine that wont take it at all, then i simply install win 2000, but only had to do that once, obviously it wont be as fast as a new machine, if you can live with it, then you will be a happy bunny

IME win2k is slower and as resource hungry as XP?

[TheBoy]

What sort of tweaking do you do - increasing swap files to try and compensate for low ram, etc? Or stripped down installations (essential stuff only) / removing things from startup routine?

I don't disbelieve you - I've just struggled to make any modern apps usable on those machines

basically, all you do is take all the fancy settings out of xp, right click on my computer, click on the advanced tab, then performance button, then check the ajust for best performance option, apply then ok, it speeds up the lappy and there you go, works on all xp pc's, if i get an machine that wont take it at all, then i simply install win 2000, but only had to do that once, obviously it wont be as fast as a new machine, if you can live with it, then you will be a happy bunny

IME win2k is slower and as resource hungry as XP?

Memory management and scheduler priority different, which normally makes XP faster than w2k on low resource machines.

[Martin_1962]

I do like XP except for the file manager which will never remember I want details

[Bacon Butty Man]

also depends on how you install the os too. and depends on your expectations, at the end of the day they are probably 8 - 10 year old machines

[TheBoy]

I do like XP except for the file manager which will never remember I want details

hmmm, not seen that before...