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[Martin_1962]

Hello Dave,May I just comment on your opinions I feel some sympathy towards them, but I have seen life for longer than I care to think about. Even had the State feel my collar for 2yrs and drag me off to Egypt & Cyprus where I lived and enjoyed life with allsorts for 2years. My comment on the soft approach is it does't work in the end you and everyone else needs to come to terms with this and remove  the cause, IE Castrate it away,ask yourself this would that unmentionable individual have been knifed to death?? I must leave this subject as I know my views won't be accepted, and I am after all just an average guy who's had a chance to speak his piece on this wonderfull Forum with you guys.So back to Omega loves!!!!

I just don't like vilence of any kind and think there is a peaceful and logical way to deal with anything!

Bowlocks

Removal of Bowlocks

[Martin_1962]

Noticed open verdict on the Brasilian chap killed by the Met Police

[Darth Loo-knee]

I think this is a difficult subject....
I believe Child Offenders are scum of the earth, and frankly are NO use to anyone.
You can't imagine what you would do if such a terrible thing happened to your children.. Would you be willing to kill the weirdo then?
I think most would answer yes...
If I remember correctly Hanging was stopped due to a couple of people wrongly hanged.... but nowadays they have DNA testing etc....

Perhaps isolation is too good for these people, should leave them with the other inmates, they would cure the problem doing a good deed.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Two wrongs do not make a right, and can lead to innocent parties getting hurt, including now those who committed this crime and will hopefully serve many years in prison themselves.  I hope they still think it was worth it then!

Which historical genius formulated that equation? I think they were way off.

Lol....so -1 + -1 does not equal -2.....[/quote]

Exactly Mark, two negatives equal negative, and a society not in positive but in chaos!

I don't think you can judge how you would feel until it happened to you. before i had the boys i wouldnt have given a toss! now it seems that i would seek revenge, not necessarily something i'm proud of but we can all have our opinions.
Sometimes get the impression that we are already in chaos.

That's exactly it Ljay. Where your kids are concerned, animal instinct takes over.

Not with all of us, and I had three children and when there was a problem it was always left to the police rather than my hubby reducing himself to the other parties level!    

[Markie]

Sex Offender - Stabbed to Death.

Thats a shame (not). Sure there wont be a good turnout at the funeral.

[Richie London]

this man was not just looking out of thwe window, he was watching them for long periods. he knew it was winding people up and did it for that reason. my mother see him a few times and said he was so creepy and shouldnt of been housed outside a schools front gates, there was always incidents out side the school involving someone in a car or hanging about the gates.
people shouldnt have to carry fear wherever they go, the law should be there to punish and properly for the crime they have commited. not re habilitate as it doesnt always work.

[LJay]

Two wrongs do not make a right, and can lead to innocent parties getting hurt, including now those who committed this crime and will hopefully serve many years in prison themselves.  I hope they still think it was worth it then!

Which historical genius formulated that equation? I think they were way off.

Lol....so -1 + -1 does not equal -2.....[/quote]

Exactly Mark, two negatives equal negative, and a society not in positive but in chaos!

I don't think you can judge how you would feel until it happened to you. before i had the boys i wouldnt have given a toss! now it seems that i would seek revenge, not necessarily something i'm proud of but we can all have our opinions.
Sometimes get the impression that we are already in chaos.

That's exactly it Ljay. Where your kids are concerned, animal instinct takes over.

Not with all of us, and I had three children and when there was a problem it was always left to the police rather than my hubby reducing himself to the other parties level!    

Thats not surprising! I wouldn't hesitate to defend my own at any cost though, no need to leave it to police or hubby! Each to their own though!
Personally have had little joy from the police the few times we have involved them!

[webby23]

I feel I am a decent chap but things like this sadly fill me with 'served him right' and fingers crossed for the same result in the baby p case too.

Justice system in this country is nothing more than a joke.

[jereboam]

Do I feel sympathy for this individual....NO.

But let us not get the idea that these vigilantes are some how doing a service for the people of Britain......they do not speak for me.

Lets be honest.....these vigilantes do what they do ....for the violence....it turns them on .....they do not do what they do out of altruism.

If they were not kicking the sh#t out of a paedophile .....they would find someone else.......now let me see
.....where do I start...Gays....blacks ...muslims......illegal immigrants....the list goes on.

In summary .....I feel no sympathy for this guy.....the world may well be a better place without him......but the so called vigilantes are little better.

They don't speak for me.

I agree - I even agree with Lizzie Zoom for once!  

'Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord' - Hebrews 10:30

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Two wrongs do not make a right, and can lead to innocent parties getting hurt, including now those who committed this crime and will hopefully serve many years in prison themselves.  I hope they still think it was worth it then!

Which historical genius formulated that equation? I think they were way off.

Lol....so -1 + -1 does not equal -2.....[/quote]

Exactly Mark, two negatives equal negative, and a society not in positive but in chaos!

I don't think you can judge how you would feel until it happened to you. before i had the boys i wouldnt have given a toss! now it seems that i would seek revenge, not necessarily something i'm proud of but we can all have our opinions.
Sometimes get the impression that we are already in chaos.

That's exactly it Ljay. Where your kids are concerned, animal instinct takes over.

Not with all of us, and I had three children and when there was a problem it was always left to the police rather than my hubby reducing himself to the other parties level!    

Thats not surprising! I wouldn't hesitate to defend my own at any cost though, no need to leave it to police or hubby! Each to their own though!Personally have had little joy from the police the few times we have involved them!

What does that mean?!! :-? :-?

What, that I am in support of law and order, not mob rule?!

Thank God I do feel like that, often working with the police and keekping our streets free of people who believe in anachy!

But as you say Ljay, everyone to their own!

[webby23]

Lizzie the trouble these days is the law favours the criminal not the victims.

Until that balance is adjusted sadly (!) things like this will happen.

I have no sympathy for him, or anyobdy else that gets their come uppance.

[albitz]

There are afaik lots of remote islands off the coast,particularily the Scottish coast,we should make use of them as prisons. one for paedo,s
one for murderers,rapists etc; leave them there and forget about them.
I dont believe in capital punishment but I do believe that the really serious offenders should be removed from society and never allowed back.
I dont believe we should bother trying to rehabilitate them,we need to make it clear that serious offences such as this will result in a horrible existence from which there is no return,in order to scare the bejaysus out of would be offenders.

[STMO123]

I've just had a horrible thought. Not as bad as your own kid being hurt, but.............................what if your own kid turned out to be the paedophile.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Lizzie the trouble these days is the law favours the criminal not the victims.

Until that balance is adjusted sadly (!) things like this will happy.

I have no sympathy for him, or anyobdy else that gets their come uppance.

I couldn't agree more, but it is through the ballot box that we bring about change, pressure on our political represenatives or going into politics ourselves to change what is certainly an imperfect system.

Going out on the streets to sort people out that you do not feel should walk the streets is not the way.  I completely understand the feeling against peodos, and personally would willing hang them painfully on piano wire.  But where do you stop?  There are a number of types in society that I would love to do away with, but who am I to decide that?  It must be our system of justice, as imperfect as it definately is!

Otherwise, we create a state in which the majority of people go back to intolerant, unjust and unfair ways to deal out punishment to those the majority do not like.  We will call this state Nazi Britain.  But heaven help anyone who falls outside "the box" accepted by the majority!  Colour of skin, political beliefs, belonging to a union, stating their viewpoints, etc.  Or shall we just change everything by a bloody revolution, as in the French Revolution of 1789 - 1795?

No, let us all work together peacefully, in line with the due process of the law to change things, like ensuring we vote at the next General Election, which if things go to the form witnessed over recent years will see up to 40% of the population will not do!    

[Andy B]

There are afaik lots of remote islands off the coast,particularily the Scottish coast,we should make use of them as prisons. .......

I somehow don't think the Jocks would agree with you though. :-?