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[Lazydocker]

I think Mr DTM will be the one to answer this for me but amwilling to accept all comments!!

I've just bought Mrs LD a P reg rover 214 with HG failed for a good price. The repair is no problem for me and I'm quite used to doing them, they used to be bread and butter in the workshop and I was doing 2 or 3 at the same time!

Anyway, the question is: Is the "Upgraded" HG worth fitting as they weren't about when I was doing them? :-? :-?

And if yes, I assume the Head saver Shim fits between the gasket and the head?

Obviously I'll be getting the head skimmed before re-fitting it... Planning to drop it off tomorrow on the way back from collecting the car! Although I'm not in a desperate rush as it's not taxed so I'll probably put it on the road at the start of January.

Also, does anyone know the torque settings and sequence, just to refresh my memory?

Thanks

[Welung666]

Upgraded HG's are a lot better along with the shim.

Torque settings are 30nm then 180degrees then another 180 degrees or 15lbsft the tightening order is when stood at front of the car looking at the engine, starting at the left hand side (nearest timing belts)

Left to right back row 9,5,1,3,7 (back row nearest windscreen) Left to right front row 10,6,2,4,8 (front row nearest radiator)

[Lazydocker]

Upgraded HG's are a lot better along with the shim.

Torque settings are 30nm then 180degrees then another 180 degrees or 15lbsft the tightening order is when stood at front of the car looking at the engine, starting at the left hand side (nearest timing belts)

Left to right back row 9,5,1,3,7 (back row nearest windscreen) Left to right front row 10,6,2,4,8 (front row nearest radiator)

Thanks... Thought the first tightening was more than that but now you say it I remember!!

Tightening sequence is as I thought... I'll go with the 2x 180 degrees as I'll be fitting new bolts anyway.

TBH I could probably stick it back together with a cornflakes packet as she only does about 6 miles each way

I assume the shim fits between the gasket and the head?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep....gasket and head.

The uprated gaskets are better but, dont fix the issue.

New bolts a must.

[Welung666]

Upgraded HG's are a lot better along with the shim.

Torque settings are 30nm then 180degrees then another 180 degrees or 15lbsft the tightening order is when stood at front of the car looking at the engine, starting at the left hand side (nearest timing belts)

Left to right back row 9,5,1,3,7 (back row nearest windscreen) Left to right front row 10,6,2,4,8 (front row nearest radiator)

Thanks... Thought the first tightening was more than that but now you say it I remember!!

Tightening sequence is as I thought... I'll go with the 2x 180 degrees as I'll be fitting new bolts anyway.

TBH I could probably stick it back together with a cornflakes packet as she only does about 6 miles each way

I assume the shim fits between the gasket and the head?

Yep

[Lazydocker]

Yep....gasket and head.

The uprated gaskets are better but, dont fix the issue.

New bolts a must.

I know... But I think I got these down to a little over 3 hours start to finish (except the delay for head shim) when I was doing them regularly and actually, of the many different ones I've done, find the K series HG quite a satisfying an easy job!!

And she only does a few miles a day so it'll hardly get up to temp!

It'll get new thermostat, water pump and cam belt kit at the same time so should be good for a few years at her 3-4k per year!!

Do you recommend any particular supplier? I used to use genuine Rover Head Set in the past but they're a bit harder to come by now

[Lazydocker]

Oh... Forgot to mention that the head is already off the car as they started to strip it and then the girl bought another car instead of paying for the work! If I weren't so busy this week I reckon I'd have it done by Thurday

[TheBoy]

the later landrover modified HG is an improvement - far less warranty claims on them.

I put a std pattern on Mrs TB's as it was all I could get quickly, and we needed car back on road.


Always use new bolts, but even more so with the k series - i know there are expensive, but dont skimp.

[Lazydocker]

the later landrover modified HG is an improvement - far less warranty claims on them.

I put a std pattern on Mrs TB's as it was all I could get quickly, and we needed car back on road.


Always use new bolts, but even more so with the k series - i know there are expensive, but dont skimp.

Would use new bolts on any head TBH... At the end of the day the car only cost £200... Another £100 for parts and it's a cheap car

[Marks DTM Calib]

Payen are one of the better ones...

[Lazydocker]

Payen are one of the better ones...

Never heard of them!!

[shanjon]

with payen you get what you pay for and the difference is easily seen when you compare it to the old gasket, i personally used a payen head gasket set on my sister in laws 214 and would reccomend one to anybody,
the biggest problem with the k-series was plastic locating pins breaking ,  and it is advisable when changing head gasket to fit the uprated metal ones,  

[TheBoy]

Payen are one of the better ones...

Get a sneeking suspicion thats what I put on Mrs TB's Rover....  ...maybe JamesV6CDX can remember

[Lazydocker]

Car's been delivered today... Trouble is it's an 8 valve and the head has been done before! It looks pretty good engine-wise but body is a bit tatty... Still, for £300 all in and done it's still a good price

Do they do the upgraded head set for the 8 valve engine?

[JamesV6CDX]

Rings a bell TB...