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[BigAl]

just get a cheepie till u no you like it

Do we charge newbies by the letter ?

[BigAl]

Fair comment Martin have to have a look at them then now

If your leaning towards an acoustic - Yamaha are rated very highly and can be picked up brand new for about 70-80 £

[Darth Loo-knee]

Fair comment Martin have to have a look at them then now

If your leaning towards an acoustic - Yamaha are rated very highly and can be picked up brand new for about 70-80 £

I was looking on fleabay at a Yamaha one so i typed the name and model in Google and Argos came up. Like you say new just under £80 so I will get one of those as the reviews are good to.
My mum has a Yamaha piano and it is a lovely sounding instrument

[Golfbuddy]

What about this one got some good reviews
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse/ID70/10199199/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+entertainment+and+sat+nav%7C10199181/c_2/2%7Ccat_10199181%7CMusical+instruments%7C10199188/c_3/3%7Ccat_10199188%7CGuitars%7C10199199/r_1/4%7CBrands%7CYamaha%7C1.htm?cmpid=GG05X&kwmid=6472508&kmcid={c

That's pretty similar to the guitar I started with. I bought that and then went to the local college in the evening for group lessons to get me started.

You couldn't do this on that guitar though.

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4Og9LNJpk&feature=related[/media]

[holtender]

Looks a load of rubbish to me mate, have a look on Ebay and get a decent second hand acoustic for a couple of hundred quid.


Try and find a solid top guitar

http://www.musicfolk.com/docs/Features/Feature_HowtoBuyaGuitar.htm

[BigAl]

Looks a load of rubbish to me mate, have a look on Ebay and get a decent second hand acoustic for a couple of hundred quid.


Try and find a solid top guitar

http://www.musicfolk.com/docs/Features/Feature_HowtoBuyaGuitar.htm

Sorry- some bloke buying his first guitar will not understand most of the comments in the above link- I've bought a couple of guitars over the last couple of years and some of their suggestions are beyond me

[Golfbuddy]

Hey Daz, have a look at this. A little bit dearer than the one you were looking at but a much better instrument. You wouldn't be disappointed with this one. And it's just up the road from you.  

Ibanez Electro Acoustic

[Pete Elite]

What about this one got some good reviews
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse/ID70/10199199/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+entertainment+and+sat+nav%7C10199181/c_2/2%7Ccat_10199181%7CMusical+instruments%7C10199188/c_3/3%7Ccat_10199188%7CGuitars%7C10199199/r_1/4%7CBrands%7CYamaha%7C1.htm?cmpid=GG05X&kwmid=6472508&kmcid={c

That's pretty similar to the guitar I started with. I bought that and then went to the local college in the evening for group lessons to get me started.

You couldn't do this on that guitar though.

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4Og9LNJpk&feature=related[/media]

   That bloke looks like he's either straining for a dump or has got he's weener stuck in his zip

[r1]

just get a cheepie till u no you like it

Do we charge newbies by the letter ?

why use 100 words when a few will do?

[Mack]

I'm not sure on the acoustic advice, you know. If you're new out acoustics are quite loud and annoying for other's around you, a nice solid body electric played unplugged is perfectly audible to the owner but less annoying to others + then also gives you the flexibility and fun of plugging into an amp and getting a few effects etc. and having more of a laugh. My first guitar was a Strat copy and this worked for me (now have 2 acoustics, 3 electrics and a bass). Also sometimes the necks are smaller on electrics but depends on the size of your hands etc.

I'd also recommend a Yamaha, not that I've got one but they're great value for money and every one that I have seen plays well. I'd avoid anything too cheap as a bad guitar could be harder to play and put you off. One of the more reasonable Pacific's would be a good start.

I also was looking for a Les Paul type a while ago. Looked at the Epiphone but be careful as the build quality is not all that it may seem. It is a cheap version of the Gibson. I bought a Tokai in the end which is a faithful copy for the price of an Epiphone and, in my experience, a much better guitar.

Best to have a strum on a few before you buy even if you can't play just to feel different necks etc.

If you want an amp, can't got wrong with a cheap Marshall for the basics. If you want some more effects etc. for the same money try a Line 6 or a Roland.

Hope you get the right choice for you, anyway. Just for the record, I'm a drummer  

[Bandit127]

If you want to play rock, I would forget the acoustic route.

Get yourself a proper, rock guitar. These fall in to two fairly different types. The Les Paul type and the Stratocaster type.

Play them both. You need to know which one you are comfortable with.

The Les Paul type has a thick body, generally made of heavy wood. You know about the weight if you gig with one! The neck is generally thicker. The fingerboard is wider with a flatter radius. Better suited to bigger hands and thicker fingers. Bending is slightly easier as the scale length is a bit shorter.
The sound is more suited to 'heavy' rock due to the humbucking pickups, heavy woods and straight through necks.
Jimmy Page mostly plays a Les Paul.

The Stratocaster type guitar has a thinner body made of lighter woods. The body is chamfered for added comfort. The neck is generally thinner with narrow string spacing. It better suits slender fingers. They always have a tremelo (or 'whammy bar') that allows you to de-tune the strings as you hold a note.
Stratocaster guitars usually have single coil pickups which are not as 'heavy' sounding as twin coil (or 'humbucker') pickups.
The sound is much more flexible and can do The Shadows to Deep Purple.
Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd) mostly plays a Stratocaster.
Richie Blackmore (Deep Purple) also plays a Stratocaster.
Both to great effect IMO.

There is a middle ground though. Look up the Epiphone ES335. It's a semi acoustic that can be played unplugged for practice but can also punt out a decent rock sound when plugged in. The playing feel (or 'action') is the same as a regular electric.
Mostly jazz and blues players use these. B B King and Chuck Berry used a derivative, the ES355.

Make sure you have a go on all these types before you buy.

[Bandit127]

Here is a Strat being used properly..
[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnapx502uQ&eurl=http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?hl=en&q=comfortably%20numb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv[/media]

[ngrainqey]

my first guitar was a squire strat... had horrible fuzz.
anyway if you want to play rock then get something with a humbucker pickup as they're alot better for using with distortion and sound fatter and more powerful, single coils are ok but it depends what your going to play.

also a more expensive amp sounds better than a cheap amp wether your guitars cheap or expensive (i'v played with quite a few amps and i think valve amps sound alot better-expensive though)
and imo line 6 amps are pants, they try and do a bit of everything with all the effects and arnt that good at any, dont sound as nice either.
i'd either go for a randall, marshall or a bigger fender amp tbh

[Mack]

I know what you mean about 'line 6', wouldn't buy one myself, but if you are a beginner you get a lot of flexibility with no hassle from one of them, even if ultimately the sound wouldn't crack it on a decent recording or with a live band - remember, it's for a beginner.... the pods are OK through 'phones for mucking about too.....

Best amp I've used is a Peavy Delta Blues (full valve), just too expensive for me (especially as a drummer...).

[amigov6]

As said don't shell out until you get any good. I can "play" one of a mates dead pricey ones but it sounds no better then a £125 starter with a practice amp. I've been learning since i can remember & can still only play a few dodgy riffs & string a few chords together.
    Someone suggested an accoustic which is a good idea & a chord book will help. I'll be your baby tonight was made famous bt UB40 but was originally Bob Dylans work. You can play & hum this on 4 chords. You start strumming, then you can dress it up a bit as you go.
    Lastly, i love rock, you don't, no worries. I don't like country but it's an easy way to learn chord patterns & picking as is basic 12 bar style blues (not screaming Gary Moore terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired) You have to learn the basics which might not involve your fav toons but you still feel good when you master something. I've got a Yamaha full size accoustic which cost £115 six years ago & it's got a lovely sound, especially when someone else plays it!!!!!!!