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[Richie London]

ive just got out of bed  

[razzo]

yep slaving away today watching muppet Christmas movie, munching on onion bhaji's & Quality street & drinking anything with alcohol in it, its tough but someone has to do it  

[Ken T]

I had to work today, accomodation is a bit scarce, so had to stay in the holiday inn. £55 per night, plus £3 per 30mins Internet, so no OFF last night   Got up, car battery was flat,   called out the AA, who started me and told me the battery's stuffed   A trip to Halfords relieved me of £85 for a new battery  . Got into work where I am qualifying a new build CCTV control system. Discovered a problem with the alarm monitoring system, that should have been caught well back in the design stage   That's gona be fun to sort, how many units have been shipped like that   .

I am due to fly back home this afternoon, thing is considering my luck should I chance it ?.

Ken

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Yep, working and my day is soured by having to conduct a disciplinary at 13:00  

Its potentially a dismissal ( very probably) and made even harder by the date and also its on a policy breach I personally disagree with.

Oh Well...

A dismissal on Christmas eve... ouch. I feel sorry for that poor sod.

I know, so do I, its a continual policy breach not fraud, sickness etc....

The way we work is that the disciplinary is set up between the persons departmental head and conducted by another departmental head ( me)

Had i the option i WOULD have held this back till after christmas - or done it earlier - i think theres a bit of malice involved to be honest  

Frankly if i can keep her in a job on a final written warning i will, but consistancy is the key in the deliberation  

Does that ("consistency") mean she has been able to carry on what has become "acceptable practice" due to poor management exercised by her superiors? :-? :-? :-?

In which case that is risky grounds for dismissal and, if it ends up as a Tribunal case, the fact it has become "accepted practice" will go in her favour.

[markey mark]

yep im 2/10 today and tommorrow then 6/2 fri sat sun ! then 8 days off

[Markie]

Yep, working and my day is soured by having to conduct a disciplinary at 13:00  

Its potentially a dismissal ( very probably) and made even harder by the date and also its on a policy breach I personally disagree with.

Oh Well...

A dismissal on Christmas eve... ouch. I feel sorry for that poor sod.

I know, so do I, its a continual policy breach not fraud, sickness etc....

The way we work is that the disciplinary is set up between the persons departmental head and conducted by another departmental head ( me)

Had i the option i WOULD have held this back till after christmas - or done it earlier - i think theres a bit of malice involved to be honest  

Frankly if i can keep her in a job on a final written warning i will, but consistancy is the key in the deliberation  

Does that ("consistency") mean she has been able to carry on what has become "acceptable practice" due to poor management exercised by her superiors? :-? :-? :-?

In which case that is risky grounds for dismissal and, if it ends up as a Tribunal case, the fact it has become "accepted practice" will go in her favour.

Exactly so Lizzie and on that basis I decided to go agaist the grain and retain her on a Final.

I feel she has been made a scapegoat ( its on internet use whilst talking to customers) only one person has been caught doing it ( and she has now been caught twice)

I walk around the area and see ebay, Bebo, BBC and so on on most computers...That inconsistancy was not something i wanted to put my name too.

She expected dismissal thought so maybe i`ve made at least one person happy even if i have pi$$ed of her department head and line manager.

[Markie]

By the way, im going home  

[ngrainqey]

i dont want to go back on the second
only go back a day then two days off but still...
hope you enjoy your 8 days off markey!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Yep, working and my day is soured by having to conduct a disciplinary at 13:00  

Its potentially a dismissal ( very probably) and made even harder by the date and also its on a policy breach I personally disagree with.

Oh Well...

A dismissal on Christmas eve... ouch. I feel sorry for that poor sod.

I know, so do I, its a continual policy breach not fraud, sickness etc....

The way we work is that the disciplinary is set up between the persons departmental head and conducted by another departmental head ( me)

Had i the option i WOULD have held this back till after christmas - or done it earlier - i think theres a bit of malice involved to be honest  

Frankly if i can keep her in a job on a final written warning i will, but consistancy is the key in the deliberation  

Does that ("consistency") mean she has been able to carry on what has become "acceptable practice" due to poor management exercised by her superiors? :-? :-? :-?

In which case that is risky grounds for dismissal and, if it ends up as a Tribunal case, the fact it has become "accepted practice" will go in her favour.

Exactly so Lizzie and on that basis I decided to go agaist the grain and retain her on a Final.

I feel she has been made a scapegoat ( its on internet use whilst talking to customers) only one person has been caught doing it ( and she has now been caught twice)

I walk around the area and see ebay, Bebo, BBC and so on on most computers...That inconsistancy was not something i wanted to put my name too.

She expected dismissal thought so maybe i`ve made at least one person happy even if i have pi$$ed of her department head and line manager.

That sounds to me a very sensible decision by you Markie!

Before any other managers start taking disciplinary action against those found to be doing what appears to be "accepted practice" then I would recommend that they should ensure all staff undergo 'retraining' on the proper use of the Company systems, with it being signed off by each employee, entered into their Personnel File, and it made very clear that disciplinary action will be taken if these "errors" are repeated.

If I was in your position I would certainly make that recommendation to your line manager / HR Department / Board of Directors as I sometimes had to in the past to avoid significant embarrassments for individual subordinate managers (who are also actively involved in this "misuse"??) senior managers and the Company as a whole, with resulting  financial consequences.

You have one very relieved employee tonight however! 8-)

[Darth Loo-knee]

No off today  

[LaserLance]

Had to start at 06.00 this morning   did 3 loads of grapes to a company in rochester(78 pallets)for delivery on boxing day night. Back to yard and me washed lorry down ,went up to office got paid now finished till monday morning,only downside im now coming down with man flu so im gonna be a bundle of laughs over christmas Well somethings never change

[stuart30]

Yep, working and my day is soured by having to conduct a disciplinary at 13:00  

Its potentially a dismissal ( very probably) and made even harder by the date and also its on a policy breach I personally disagree with.

Oh Well...

A dismissal on Christmas eve... ouch. I feel sorry for that poor sod.

What your sacking SANTA....your heartless swine.

[mars]

Normal working day for me today, 6.45am till 4pm. Back in on Monday and then got New Year's day off next week.

[bertiecbx550]

normal working week for me 7pm till 7am monday through to sun this week then mon,tues,weds days off thurs,fri back at work then sat,sun days off....... but my line manager has told us that hes gonna pay normal rate of pay for xmas day and boxing day  

[tyreburner]

Had to do 30 miles to work ( in a company vehicle though) at 9am then wash coaches till 4pm then do a "service run" down to Newcastle (30mile) - picked no-one up, then did the return run - picked two people up- then 30 miles back to home BUT i got to use a works transit -  damn that mini bus shifts ....the silly cow in the corsa that tried pulling out on me couldnt keep up on the twisty roads God i miss being a white van man  
Am now off for 11 days  8-)
merry christmas all