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[TheBoy]

I had to go to Derby today to build a server.  As it was doing its automated build, I was obviously a bit bored, and once I was bored of the games on my PDA, it got me pondering about the backup robot I was leaning against.  So I did a bit of maths and after a few guestimates, I reckon that robot could be loaded with 600TB of tapes at any one time. Thats 600TB native - hardware compression is usually 2:1, so 1.2PB.  What the hell do people need this amount of storage for  :-?

So then I started thinking about computers - the server I was building had 32 DIMM slots, each filled with a 1GB module....

Even consumer stuff, you'll struggle to buy a PC with less than 160Gb drive....

Before computers, where did we keep all this info?  And is it progress?

[Bo Bo]

& we still push around forest loads of paper at work  :-?

[tunnie]

got about a TB of storage here spread across all my external drives and PC's ..

Video editing takes up huge amounts these days, in my classes we were talking about the compression needed for HD TV ... you need 100's GB's for just a few minites of video!

[Auto Addict]

I can remember when the whole of the armed forces stores were kept on punched cards......

[Taxi_Driver]

I had to go to Derby today to build a server.  As it was doing its automated build, I was obviously a bit bored, and once I was bored of the games on my PDA, it got me pondering about the backup robot I was leaning against.  So I did a bit of maths and after a few guestimates, I reckon that robot could be loaded with 600TB of tapes at any one time. Thats 600TB native - hardware compression is usually 2:1, so 1.2PB.  What the hell do people need this amount of storage for  :-?

So then I started thinking about computers - the server I was building had 32 DIMM slots, each filled with a 1GB module....

Even consumer stuff, you'll struggle to buy a PC with less than 160Gb drive....

Before computers, where did we keep all this info?  And is it progress?

But did the backup robot wave at you???

Can remember we could get the robot to move its picking arm around to clear window at the front and move it up and down.....like waving at you  ......carnt remember the make.....but used to amuse visitors  

[x25xe]

I had to go to Derby today to build a server.  As it was doing its automated build, I was obviously a bit bored, and once I was bored of the games on my PDA, it got me pondering about the backup robot I was leaning against.  So I did a bit of maths and after a few guestimates, I reckon that robot could be loaded with 600TB of tapes at any one time. Thats 600TB native - hardware compression is usually 2:1, so 1.2PB.  What the hell do people need this amount of storage for  :-?

So then I started thinking about computers - the server I was building had 32 DIMM slots, each filled with a 1GB module....

Even consumer stuff, you'll struggle to buy a PC with less than 160Gb drive....

Before computers, where did we keep all this info?  And is it progress?

Not mentioned this on here before, but I am a Network Admin, Windows I am afraid, (no MCSE or any qualifications - just learnt "on the job" so to speak.  Backup is a thing that always worries me.  At work I use Quantum 80Gb native 120Gb compressed device.  I have toyed with adding SANs and NASs to the network, but backing it up always brings me sharply to ground!

That sounds like one hell of a server you were building there!

[TheBoy]

I had to go to Derby today to build a server.  As it was doing its automated build, I was obviously a bit bored, and once I was bored of the games on my PDA, it got me pondering about the backup robot I was leaning against.  So I did a bit of maths and after a few guestimates, I reckon that robot could be loaded with 600TB of tapes at any one time. Thats 600TB native - hardware compression is usually 2:1, so 1.2PB.  What the hell do people need this amount of storage for  :-?

So then I started thinking about computers - the server I was building had 32 DIMM slots, each filled with a 1GB module....

Even consumer stuff, you'll struggle to buy a PC with less than 160Gb drive....

Before computers, where did we keep all this info?  And is it progress?

But did the backup robot wave at you???

Can remember we could get the robot to move its picking arm around to clear window at the front and move it up and down.....like waving at you  ......carnt remember the make.....but used to amuse visitors  

It was probably a bit busy to play like that, 100 LTO2 drives to services, it doesn't get too much rest, even during its quiet times during day...

[TheBoy]

got about a TB of storage here spread across all my external drives and PC's ..

Video editing takes up huge amounts these days, in my classes we were talking about the compression needed for HD TV ... you need 100's GB's for just a few minites of video!

Yes, but generally the sort of servers I'm dealing with aren't used for video editing/storage...

Probably about 1TB here, but that includes the MCE, and as you say, video can take up a lot...

[TheBoy]

I had to go to Derby today to build a server.  As it was doing its automated build, I was obviously a bit bored, and once I was bored of the games on my PDA, it got me pondering about the backup robot I was leaning against.  So I did a bit of maths and after a few guestimates, I reckon that robot could be loaded with 600TB of tapes at any one time. Thats 600TB native - hardware compression is usually 2:1, so 1.2PB.  What the hell do people need this amount of storage for  :-?

So then I started thinking about computers - the server I was building had 32 DIMM slots, each filled with a 1GB module....

Even consumer stuff, you'll struggle to buy a PC with less than 160Gb drive....

Before computers, where did we keep all this info?  And is it progress?

Not mentioned this on here before, but I am a Network Admin, Windows I am afraid, (no MCSE or any qualifications - just learnt "on the job" so to speak.  Backup is a thing that always worries me.  At work I use Quantum 80Gb native 120Gb compressed device.  I have toyed with adding SANs and NASs to the network, but backing it up always brings me sharply to ground!

That sounds like one hell of a server you were building there!

Most SANs allow you to split off a 3rd mirror if you need a 'snapshot' point in time backup, else standard file level type backups. NAS tends to be simpler, so file level only, same as local storage...

The server I was building was a fairly typical unix system for the stuff I do.  If you're familiar with Windows, that can now reach these sort of levels, though few applications scale up this well...

[Taxi_Driver]

I had to go to Derby today to build a server.  As it was doing its automated build, I was obviously a bit bored, and once I was bored of the games on my PDA, it got me pondering about the backup robot I was leaning against.  So I did a bit of maths and after a few guestimates, I reckon that robot could be loaded with 600TB of tapes at any one time. Thats 600TB native - hardware compression is usually 2:1, so 1.2PB.  What the hell do people need this amount of storage for  :-?

So then I started thinking about computers - the server I was building had 32 DIMM slots, each filled with a 1GB module....

Even consumer stuff, you'll struggle to buy a PC with less than 160Gb drive....

Before computers, where did we keep all this info?  And is it progress?

But did the backup robot wave at you???

Can remember we could get the robot to move its picking arm around to clear window at the front and move it up and down.....like waving at you  ......carnt remember the make.....but used to amuse visitors  

It was probably a bit busy to play like that, 100 LTO2 drives to services, it doesn't get too much rest, even during its quiet times during day...

True....and i am talking of a few years ago......when it used to only be busy at night doing backups....unless some asked for a restore during the day.....unless it busy then it was  [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] when management wanted it  

[Martin_1962]

Video editing is a killer

One MiniDV holds about 13GB

[TheBoy]

Video editing is a killer

One MiniDV holds about 13GB

I agree media editing and storage does use space. But webservers and application servers?

[x25xe]

Video editing is a killer

One MiniDV holds about 13GB

It sure is, I edit in Premier Pro and you should see the way that eats space! (although Martin, you will already know this  )

Still, it beats assembly editing where I used to kneel in front of my Panasonic VTRs, hands down.  As they had good tape control mechanisms, I knew the amount of frames to wind back to get frame accurate cuts / inserts.

Off topic a bit and I apologise  

[TheBoy]

Off topic a bit and I apologise  

Nah, this is General Chat, things are expected to go off at a tangent!

[x25xe]

Most SANs allow you to split off a 3rd mirror if you need a 'snapshot' point in time backup, else standard file level type backups. NAS tends to be simpler, so file level only, same as local storage...

The server I was building was a fairly typical unix system for the stuff I do.  If you're familiar with Windows, that can now reach these sort of levels, though few applications scale up this well...

To be honest, I would not even bother with Windows on those sort of levels as the apps will not scale as you say.  With the SANs and NAS, I would still need a large (and fast) tape device to back up so I just set quotas for the users.