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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #15 on: 25 January 2009, 23:17:25 »

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Being totally honest about it, how many of you would if there was a loophole try and get out of the fine and points. I for one would

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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #16 on: 25 January 2009, 23:24:57 »

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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #17 on: 25 January 2009, 23:26:59 »

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Being totally honest about it, how many of you would if there was a loophole try and get out of the fine and points. I for one would

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« Reply #18 on: 25 January 2009, 23:27:35 »

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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #19 on: 25 January 2009, 23:32:09 »

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Being totally honest about it, how many of you would if there was a loophole try and get out of the fine and points. I for one would


i would if the ticket is not issued correctly then it is void, there are set ways the enforcers must observe. so if they have acted incorrectly then you have a case. i'm not condoning speeding but i do think our superiors should get it right everytime or face the consequences!!

how long was it before you recieved the NIP and the alleged offence? it should be within 14 days. was the letter registered post/signed for? if not then how do they know you got it?
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #20 on: 25 January 2009, 23:54:48 »

not a good idea to mess them around the magistrates are all geared up for this and will make a show of you to put people off from trying the same thing!

our boss tried it at work for doing 60 odd in a 30 at night lol instead of getting 3 points and £60 he ended up with 6 points and £500 court costs!!!!!!!
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #21 on: 26 January 2009, 03:27:46 »

well tbh he would of got that fine anyway as he was double the speed limit and that is 6 points and in some cases a ban

at end of the day i was doing 35 in a 30 that i was sure was a 40 but i was wrong and yes i will try to get out of it because i put enough money into the governments xmas party fund as it lol

and no the letter was served after 14 days
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #22 on: 26 January 2009, 06:34:43 »

i heard that if you pay the fine with a cheque , say the fine £60 but you pay £61 with your cheque ,they will send you a cheque for a pound! but if you dont cash the returned cheque they cant point you as the financial part of it has not been completed? dont know if fact but worth a try :y
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #23 on: 26 January 2009, 09:42:14 »

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well tbh he would of got that fine anyway as he was double the speed limit and that is 6 points and in some cases a ban

at end of the day i was doing 35 in a 30 that i was sure was a 40 but i was wrong and yes i will try to get out of it because i put enough money into the governments xmas party fund as it lol

and no the letter was served after 14 days
If the NIP wasn't posted in time to reach the owner (as known by dvla) within 14 (working?) days, then there is a loophole you may use
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #24 on: 26 January 2009, 09:58:43 »

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well tbh he would of got that fine anyway as he was double the speed limit and that is 6 points and in some cases a ban

at end of the day i was doing 35 in a 30 that i was sure was a 40 but i was wrong and yes i will try to get out of it because i put enough money into the governments xmas party fund as it lol

and no the letter was served after 14 days

the letter must be served within 14 days for it to be legal, if this is not the case write them a letter and state the fact. do not use the cheque for more money thing as they will prosecute you anyway! its well documented over the net and the powers that be are wise to it.

the relevant law is section 1 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.

the 14 day rule from: http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/notice_of_intended_prosecution.htm

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What is the 14 day rule?

The 14 day rule relates only to the period of time in which the Police/Process Unit must serve the original Notice. The Police do not have to prove that the Notice reached its intended recipient within 14 days, merely that in the normal course of events, it should have arrived. In many cases, the registered keeper will be a lease company not the actual driver with the result that even if the driver is unaware of the incident, service of the Notice is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence.

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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #25 on: 26 January 2009, 22:26:45 »

A document is deemed to have been "served" if sent by 1st class post 1 working day before the limit of time ....  :)
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #26 on: 26 January 2009, 22:35:32 »

Just take the points and fine, it will cost you to defend

We all go over the speed limit and the punishment is fines etc...........keep within the law and theres no problem.

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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #27 on: 26 January 2009, 22:35:46 »

just be a man, grow a pair. admit you did wrong take the punishment and learn from your mistake mate. you were speeding. end of.
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #28 on: 26 January 2009, 23:22:57 »

Take it on the chin ;)
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Re: anyone good with legal advice??
« Reply #29 on: 27 January 2009, 00:29:26 »

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Take it on the chin ;)

Yeah Freddie mercury did just that (often im told) and look what happened too that poor sod. ;D


As others have said just accept it and take it as a reminder too watch the speedo next time.
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