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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #30 on: 19 March 2009, 22:40:45 »

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well my personal opinion is this go to pepipoo.com and find out what the likely punishment  is going to be,then if worthwhile ask the scamera/dick turpins for the pictures to see if you can determine who was driving,then you can make your choice as to a, bend over and take some or b,keep quite and cop 6 points for not knowing who the driver was.

and possibly be done for perjury as my neighbour was for saying just that
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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #31 on: 19 March 2009, 22:42:29 »

they provide you with a website to access in the avon and somerset area so you can see the pics online before you cough!!
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« Reply #32 on: 19 March 2009, 22:45:30 »

people  get done for perjury when there is clear evidence to contradict your statement ie saying the wife was driving when the pics quite clearly show a geezer!!
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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #33 on: 19 March 2009, 22:49:30 »

Most of the "talivan" cameras now take 3 pictures ... 2 of the speeding event and then a closeup of the drivers area. This is to forestall all those who used to try it on. When I was done 2 years ago the 3rd picture was easily good enough to identify me as the driver.

As previously said ...  NIP will often have the log in details required to view your picture/speeding details on the secure web site.

The Wiltshire one is here ..

http://secure.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/optimalview/wrd/run/portal.show
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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #34 on: 19 March 2009, 22:49:36 »

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well my personal opinion is this go to pepipoo.com and find out what the likely punishment  is going to be,then if worthwhile ask the scamera/dick turpins for the pictures to see if you can determine who was driving,then you can make your choice as to a, bend over and take some or b,keep quite and cop 6 points for not knowing who the driver was.

and possibly be done for perjury as my neighbour was for saying just that

It is very a risky strategy when they have got the NIP to you in 2 days, IMHO. Most people don't have that bad a memory and if it's going to court anyway, they will blow holes in such a defence pretty sharpish.

All you can say is to plead guity, do a bit of brown nosing, say how sorry you are and that during the overtake you were not paying sufficient attention to your speed, etc.

Kevin (who hit the limiter in 3rd during an overtake earlier today - not in the 3.2 though) :-[
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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #35 on: 19 March 2009, 22:51:36 »

A lot of cases have been dropped where they could not prove the speed camera was not calibrated properly using certaain camera's.
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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #36 on: 19 March 2009, 22:56:54 »

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if the limit is 60 you would need to be in excess of 80 to go to court as i understand it.

Well I am embarrassed to say that the van clocked me at 95mph.


Just found this ... ok it's a motorway not the road you were on ... but ...  ??

http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/news.asp?ID=35
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« Reply #37 on: 19 March 2009, 23:00:39 »

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get your butt over to pepipoo.com.

Yeah and end up getting twice the fine....sorry but that site just tries too pick holes in the NIP ect.

Best bet be honest and plead guilty at earliest stage.

One of our Admins also helps out on that site  :-X
Just to clarify, its not me.....  ;)
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« Reply #38 on: 19 March 2009, 23:02:59 »

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people  get done for perjury when there is clear evidence to contradict your statement ie saying the wife was driving when the pics quite clearly show a geezer!!
Time too loose the mouser/beard/glasses...  And thats just the wife!!   ;D
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« Reply #39 on: 19 March 2009, 23:03:37 »

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well my personal opinion is this go to pepipoo.com and find out what the likely punishment  is going to be,then if worthwhile ask the scamera/dick turpins for the pictures to see if you can determine who was driving,then you can make your choice as to a, bend over and take some or b,keep quite and cop 6 points for not knowing who the driver was.

and possibly be done for perjury as my neighbour was for saying just that

It is very a risky strategy when they have got the NIP to you in 2 days, IMHO. Most people don't have that bad a memory and if it's going to court anyway, they will blow holes in such a defence pretty sharpish.

All you can say is to plead guity, do a bit of brown nosing, say how sorry you are and that during the overtake you were not paying sufficient attention to your speed, etc.

Kevin (who hit the limiter in 3rd during an overtake earlier today - not in the 3.2 though) :-[
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« Reply #40 on: 19 March 2009, 23:04:37 »

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A lot of cases have been dropped where they could not prove the speed camera was not calibrated properly using certaain camera's.

and the onus, as I understand things, is on the defendant (i.e. you, as the speeder) to prove that its not been done...
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« Reply #41 on: 19 March 2009, 23:06:14 »

That Wiltshire and Swindon safety camera website is interesting,

"A driver detected travelling at 96 mph on the M4 on 22nd June 2008 was fined £1200 with £50 costs and 5 penalty points.

A driver detected travelling at 98 mph on the M4 on 25th June 2008 was fined £850 with £50 costs and was disqualified for 6 months.

A driver detected travelling at 103 mph on the M4 on 2nd August 2008 was fined £700 with £50 costs and 6 penalty points.

A driver detected travelling at 101 mph on the M4 in 5th August 2008 was fined £1,000 with £50 costs and 6 penalty points."





........but sadly its pointing to a fine in the region of £1000+ and 5 points for our guys case.........

Interesting point is that all the above speeding offences were committed on a motorway........our guy was caught doing 95mph on an A road........

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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #42 on: 19 March 2009, 23:06:53 »

More info on the alleged "uncalibrated" cameras .... methinks I detect an urban myth ...

http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/news.asp?ID=22

http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/news.asp?ID=18

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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #43 on: 19 March 2009, 23:42:56 »

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A lot of cases have been dropped where they could not prove the speed camera was not calibrated properly using certaain camera's.

and the onus, as I understand things, is on the defendant (i.e. you, as the speeder) to prove that its not been done...

Clue.    Spend some time on youtube. ::)
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Re: speeding - i know its wrong but....
« Reply #44 on: 19 March 2009, 23:48:11 »

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A lot of cases have been dropped where they could not prove the speed camera was not calibrated properly using certaain camera's.

and the onus, as I understand things, is on the defendant (i.e. you, as the speeder) to prove that its not been done...

Clue.    Spend some time on youtube. ::)

Now that does surprise me.... ;D ;D ;D
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