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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #30 on: 15 January 2007, 12:28:19 »
Right, put some water in coolant and started here up, missed all over the place. That is the coil pack that sits over number 1 - I think the rubber bung left on by garage has caused a poor connection, and there is nothing left of the connector in the coil pack.  Clean it up as a bodge, and misfire gone.

Let it idle up to temperature, seemed OK.

Still no hot air out of heater.

Revved it to about 4 - 5k, and everything lots of steam/smoke out the back. Now it is a bit nippy out today, but this was a LOT of white smoke.  On idle, just a whisper of white smoke.

Switched off, checked dipstick, definately a bit creamy, not really thick, not that is defo not neat oil.

So HG gone?  I'm pretty convinced.
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #31 on: 15 January 2007, 12:33:20 »
sounds like it, when reving the senny last night that was smoky too due it being so cold. I remember my 2.2 doing the same, on that oil change a week earlier.

But i take it there was loads more smoke than that?

Shame I can't be around end of the week  :(

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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #32 on: 15 January 2007, 12:42:35 »
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sounds like it, when reving the senny last night that was smoky too due it being so cold. I remember my 2.2 doing the same, on that oil change a week earlier.

But i take it there was loads more smoke than that?

Shame I can't be around end of the week  :(

More white smoke than I have ever seen from it, even when cold.

But the creamy texture to oil really sticks a nail in the coffin in my book....
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #33 on: 15 January 2007, 15:38:26 »
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sounds like it, when reving the senny last night that was smoky too due it being so cold. I remember my 2.2 doing the same, on that oil change a week earlier.

But i take it there was loads more smoke than that?

Shame I can't be around end of the week  :(

More white smoke than I have ever seen from it, even when cold.

But the creamy texture to oil really sticks a nail in the coffin in my book....


Hmmmm i take it the goo is in header tank then...

any chances of a pic?

ps isnt it amazing the variations that we name water/ oil contamination

mayo / goo / porridge / chocolate  :o
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #34 on: 15 January 2007, 17:28:45 »
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sounds like it, when reving the senny last night that was smoky too due it being so cold. I remember my 2.2 doing the same, on that oil change a week earlier.

But i take it there was loads more smoke than that?

Shame I can't be around end of the week  :(

More white smoke than I have ever seen from it, even when cold.

But the creamy texture to oil really sticks a nail in the coffin in my book....


Hmmmm i take it the goo is in header tank then...

any chances of a pic?

ps isnt it amazing the variations that we name water/ oil contamination

mayo / goo / porridge / chocolate  :o
Header tank is clear.

Which is odd, as heater is not working, so I suspected full of gunk, but as said, header tank clear  :-/.  Airlock stopping heater?
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #35 on: 15 January 2007, 17:55:16 »
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sounds like it, when reving the senny last night that was smoky too due it being so cold. I remember my 2.2 doing the same, on that oil change a week earlier.

But i take it there was loads more smoke than that?

Shame I can't be around end of the week  :(

More white smoke than I have ever seen from it, even when cold.

But the creamy texture to oil really sticks a nail in the coffin in my book....


Hmmmm i take it the goo is in header tank then...

any chances of a pic?

ps isnt it amazing the variations that we name water/ oil contamination

mayo / goo / porridge / chocolate  :o
Header tank is clear.

Which is odd, as heater is not working, so I suspected full of gunk, but as said, header tank clear  :-/.  Airlock stopping heater?

Heaters - well we are on about a black art here now.

It could be anything, but I would flush it anyway.

Can be blocked with gunge, moved sediment, air locks, or even hot water not getting to the heater plumbing
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #36 on: 15 January 2007, 18:21:19 »
JamesV6CDX - I could really use that shopping list as tomorrow (Tues) is my last chance to get stuff.  It will have to be Motorserv, who aren't too bad, but want £70 + VAT for HG....
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #37 on: 15 January 2007, 18:43:54 »
Be with you by 9pm mate
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #38 on: 15 January 2007, 18:52:55 »
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Be with you by 9pm mate
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #39 on: 15 January 2007, 19:10:30 »
I will review this later, but at the mo I can think of:

Necessary:

* Top end gasket set preferable.
   (At minimum, head gasket, rocket gasket, exhaust and inlet manifold gaskets. Thermostat housing gasket)

* New head bolts

* New oil and filter

* Antifereze (for 50/50 mix)

Preferable:

* New spark plugs
* Timing belt KIT (with new tensioner)
* Water pump
* Aux belt

I'm trying to locate my camlock tool, but they're not expensive (£5)

At the moment I'm feeling as rough as buggery with a cold, but I'm dosing myself up so I don't forsee a problem ;D






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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #40 on: 15 January 2007, 19:10:35 »
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Be with you by 9pm mate
Ta  :y


Are you off to EH MK? can you pick up a Senator oil filter?

Got one from the local here to do on Saturday, but they only ever stock 1. Suspect EH MK might be the same....

Part Number: 903156302, it should be £2.31 + vat

Cheers  :y
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #41 on: 15 January 2007, 19:15:38 »
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I will review this later, but at the mo I can think of:

Necessary:

* Top end gasket set preferable.
   (At minimum, head gasket, rocket gasket, exhaust and inlet manifold gaskets. Thermostat housing gasket)

* New head bolts

* New oil and filter

* Antifereze (for 50/50 mix)

Preferable:

* New spark plugs
* Timing belt KIT (with new tensioner)
* Water pump
* Aux belt

I'm trying to locate my camlock tool, but they're not expensive (£5)

At the moment I'm feeling as rough as buggery with a cold, but I'm dosing myself up so I don't forsee a problem ;D






Do the bolts come as a set, or do I need to specify how many...

Do I need to buy thermostat, someone said may as well change?
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #42 on: 15 January 2007, 19:19:31 »
What year/model and I'll look up the number of bolts for you.
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #43 on: 15 January 2007, 19:21:00 »
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What year/model and I'll look up the number of bolts for you.
Rover 25 1.6, W reg, built Feb 2000
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Re: Rover HG - is it HG?
« Reply #44 on: 15 January 2007, 19:30:54 »
Cylinder Head Bolts

Retain original position, clean and lubricate threads. With cylinder head removed screw bolts in finger tight. Measure between block face and underside of bolt.
Maximum bolt length = 97 mm.
Alternatively remove oil rail and screw the bolts in finger tight. If full lenght of thread engages, the bolt can be reused. If not measure between top face of oil rail and underside of bolt head.
Maximum bolt length = 378 mm.

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