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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #30 on: 22 May 2009, 09:04:13 »

Oh... And the Corsa. IIRCC the 1.2 is a chain driven engine :-/ :-/ :-? :-?
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #31 on: 22 May 2009, 09:14:39 »

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Oh... And the Corsa. IIRCC the 1.2 is a chain driven engine :-/ :-/ :-? :-?

Indeed, the 1.2 16V and 1.0 12V are both chain driven lumps.

No big problmes if serviced well and about a 2 hour job to change the chain and tensioner/guiide assembly if its noisey
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #32 on: 22 May 2009, 09:18:16 »

Using a year 2000 clit sport (1.6) for nearly 1 year we got no problem.. (only wheel bearings need to change and new tyres)

although a bit noisy (I cut the springs ;D)  comfortable for that size (for 2 persons)

and consumption in city avgs 43-45 mpg..
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #33 on: 22 May 2009, 09:18:33 »

As MDTM states, chains aren't a big problem if the car has lots of regular fresh oil.  On a small engine like that, I would expect, with decent servicing, the chains would outlast the engine...
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #34 on: 22 May 2009, 09:19:40 »

A saxo there cheap to buy and run :y
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #35 on: 22 May 2009, 09:24:47 »

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The little fiats are reliable, and more rustproof that in years gone by, and dirt cheap.

Corsas are a possibility, but newer ones hold price too well, and older ones are pretty naff.

Fiestas, any built in the last 10-12yrs seem to be mechanically reasonable, but watch out for rust.

Rover 200/25, HG problems, particularly bad on 1.4 and 1.8, otherwise robust

clit, seem to be reliable mechanically, luxury electrics such as windows/locking etc will fail on older ones.

Polo, reputation for reliability, but the 2 that colleagues have always seem to be in the garage for something, and parts aren't cheap.
There's always the diesel, cheap to insure and run :y
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #36 on: 22 May 2009, 09:33:01 »

Bought my 17 year old daughter a Peugeot 106 K reg, she had it two years, it was a good cheap little run around... :y
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #37 on: 22 May 2009, 09:34:18 »

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The little fiats are reliable, and more rustproof that in years gone by, and dirt cheap.

Corsas are a possibility, but newer ones hold price too well, and older ones are pretty naff.

Fiestas, any built in the last 10-12yrs seem to be mechanically reasonable, but watch out for rust.

Rover 200/25, HG problems, particularly bad on 1.4 and 1.8, otherwise robust

clit, seem to be reliable mechanically, luxury electrics such as windows/locking etc will fail on older ones.

Polo, reputation for reliability, but the 2 that colleagues have always seem to be in the garage for something, and parts aren't cheap.
There's always the diesel, cheap to insure and run :y
Tempted to get one myself ;D.  One of the glow plugs is a right bitch to change though
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #38 on: 22 May 2009, 13:50:13 »

is this the 220 Diesel Rover Engine the 2.0 BL Perkins derived engine? very reliable!!! Tensioners can play up

SWMBO's been offered a Polo to replace the SEAT with but after reading on here i dunno id much rather prefer a Diesel Fester or a Diesel 106

1.8D Festers live forever and the car will rust away long before the engine gives up thought about the Ford Teapot (KA) Has a engine loosely based on the Crossflow engine
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #39 on: 22 May 2009, 13:52:44 »

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is this the 220 Diesel Rover Engine the 2.0 BL Perkins derived engine? very reliable!!! Tensioners can play up

SWMBO's been offered a Polo to replace the SEAT with but after reading on here i dunno id much rather prefer a Diesel Fester or a Diesel 106

1.8D Festers live forever and the car will rust away long before the engine gives up thought about the Ford Teapot (KA) Has a engine loosely based on the Crossflow engine


Nah, pre-dates that

1.8D Fiestas are truely bloody awful.......and the engine does suffer starting issues
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #40 on: 22 May 2009, 14:52:28 »

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is this the 220 Diesel Rover Engine the 2.0 BL Perkins derived engine? very reliable!!! Tensioners can play up

SWMBO's been offered a Polo to replace the SEAT with but after reading on here i dunno id much rather prefer a Diesel Fester or a Diesel 106

1.8D Festers live forever and the car will rust away long before the engine gives up thought about the Ford Teapot (KA) Has a engine loosely based on the Crossflow engine


Nah, pre-dates that

1.8D Fiestas are truely bloody awful.......and the engine does suffer starting issues
Had a fair few vans with that engine in, both Escorts and Fiestas, all were non turbocharged variety.

The engines, particularly in the heavily laden escorts were gutless - I never used 4th or 5th gear as 3rd was fastest, banging on the governer at 70mph. Did use 4th once on the M25, got a decent tow right up the pipes of a transit in front doing 90, but he edged away from me, then it was 70mph again :(

1.8 was adequate in the Fiesta though, just drove everywhere flat out, mostly licence threatening speeds.


The way mine was treated, the last fiesta in particular, and that fiesta of my colleague, I can only say that the engines are pretty bomb-proof - the only engine failure was in my colleague's one, he was following me flat out down the M3 one day, kept banging up the back of me (we were young and irresponsible), when an aux tensioner let go.

edit: just remembered, another colleague's fiesta dropped a liner at about 100mph as well. Engine destroyed.

But they were pretty bulletproof.  The other small vans we had at the time (ignoring the earlier Maestros and Itals, themselves pretty resilient to being thrashed by us) were Corsa/Combos, 1.7TD unit I think.  They certainly did not stand up quite so well to the abuse ::)
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #41 on: 22 May 2009, 15:21:22 »

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is this the 220 Diesel Rover Engine the 2.0 BL Perkins derived engine? very reliable!!! Tensioners can play up

SWMBO's been offered a Polo to replace the SEAT with but after reading on here i dunno id much rather prefer a Diesel Fester or a Diesel 106

1.8D Festers live forever and the car will rust away long before the engine gives up thought about the Ford Teapot (KA) Has a engine loosely based on the Crossflow engine


Nah, pre-dates that

1.8D Fiestas are truely bloody awful.......and the engine does suffer starting issues
Had a fair few vans with that engine in, both Escorts and Fiestas, all were non turbocharged variety.

The engines, particularly in the heavily laden escorts were gutless - I never used 4th or 5th gear as 3rd was fastest, banging on the governer at 70mph. Did use 4th once on the M25, got a decent tow right up the pipes of a transit in front doing 90, but he edged away from me, then it was 70mph again :(

1.8 was adequate in the Fiesta though, just drove everywhere flat out, mostly licence threatening speeds.


The way mine was treated, the last fiesta in particular, and that fiesta of my colleague, I can only say that the engines are pretty bomb-proof - the only engine failure was in my colleague's one, he was following me flat out down the M3 one day, kept banging up the back of me (we were young and irresponsible), when an aux tensioner let go.

edit: just remembered, another colleague's fiesta dropped a liner at about 100mph as well. Engine destroyed.

But they were pretty bulletproof.  The other small vans we had at the time (ignoring the earlier Maestros and Itals, themselves pretty resilient to being thrashed by us) were Corsa/Combos, 1.7TD unit I think.  They certainly did not stand up quite so well to the abuse ::)

I got stopped in an Escort van on the way to Dover once... Said he had me clocked at license losing speed, which I found hard to believe as flat out the needle sat on 90ish ::) ::) ::)

Luckily it was 2am and I was very polite, combined with the urgent Aircraft spares I was taking to Paris, and I only got a slapped wrist :o :o :o Slowed me down somewhat though ;) ;)
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #42 on: 22 May 2009, 16:50:29 »

My brother brought his 17 yr old daughter a nissan micra for her earleir this year off of fleabay , he went to see it as it was local to us ,its was a cat "c" write off when he saw what damage it had it was only superfiscial ,bump in back bumper and bent the boot lock out of line ,paid the guy £540 for it ,insurance £800 odd ,bit of a joke really
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #43 on: 22 May 2009, 17:04:19 »

Shame Vamps, you could have had our lass`s Yaris, it went about 2months ago for 1400. 52 plate, 1.2 vvti, had 75k on the clock, ran it for 2 years sweet as a nut and suprisingly nippy(pardon the pun). :-X
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Re: Suggestions please for a car for a 17 year old
« Reply #44 on: 22 May 2009, 17:55:54 »

The earlier Micra's are known for chain probs. Ours went at failry low mileage, then the tensioners loosened and the engine clattered and ran rough. Its a pain to change cause the engine mount has to come off etc.

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