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[KillerWatt]

Have we been caught by these cameras and feel p*&sed off.

Never been caught by a camera in my life, and I exceed the posted limit at least once a day without fail.

The reason cameras pi$$ me off is because they get sited where the powers that be know full well people will drive according to the conditions, rather than some bull$hit artificial limit.

See my post above about siting cameras outside schools...you know full well they don't get sited in those sort of locations because people always drive under the limit in that scenario which means you don't have a job.

[GG]

Today on 5 mile stetch of dual carriageway, I saw a discreetly parked speed camera van. This was at the end of a long climbing bend. You cannot see this van until it is almost to late, it is only 1.4 miles into this 5 mile stretch.

Before you hit this stetch in the middle of nowhere you have had to queue through a frustrating ring road and this is the first point you can excede 25 mph at peak times, I am sure they don't park it here just to make money (this was at peak time)  

[waspy]

I'm a big fan of the 20mph limit on housing estates & through town centres, so long as they're in the right places. I travel along some roads & i think what the kcuf where thet thinking what they decided this low limit & also why is this high, when it should be lowered. We can all think of a road like this.
Driver's tend to decide their own speed, we are not all idiots who can't think. Though we are all being treated as such.
Yet again, it's the minority that nak it for the majority.

[GG]

I'm a big fan of the 20mph limit on housing estates & through town centres, so long as they're in the right places. I travel along some roads & i think what the kcuf where thet thinking what they decided this low limit & also why is this high, when it should be lowered. We can all think of a road like this.
Driver's tend to decide their own speed, we are not all idiots who can't think. Though we are all being treated as such.
Yet again, it's the minority that nak it for the majority.

Agreed  

[over50now]

Love this - discussion time.

Probably got a warning sign before the school.  Proactive

Most other warning signs and road markings are reactive.

More paint - more signs - more enforcement
Drivers are getting it wrong.

Does every bend, junction roundabout have a warning triangle before it.    If it does, it's got crash/incident history.

Replies please

[GG]

Love this - discussion time.

Probably got a warning sign before the school.  Proactive

Most other warning signs and road markings are reactive.

More paint - more signs - more enforcement
Drivers are getting it wrong.

Does every bend, junction roundabout have a warning triangle before it.    If it does, it's got crash/incident history.

Replies please

Today on 5 mile stetch of dual carriageway, I saw a discreetly parked speed camera van. This was at the end of a long climbing bend. You cannot see this van until it is almost to late, it is only 1.4 miles into this 5 mile stretch.

Before you hit this stetch in the middle of nowhere you have had to queue through a frustrating ring road

None of the above

[KillerWatt]

Yet again, it's the minority that nak it for the majority.

And the minority are......unregistered sheds, and TWOC'd motors....where in both cases the driver won't give a toss because a camera will never bring them to book.

Replies please

I've replied 3 times now, I'm still waiting for you to address those replies.

[waspy]

Love this - discussion time.

Probably got a warning sign before the school.  Proactive

Most other warning signs and road markings are reactive.

More paint - more signs - more enforcement
Drivers are getting it wrong.

Does every bend, junction roundabout have a warning triangle before it.    If it does, it's got crash/incident history.

Replies please

No, you can have too much information which confuses people.
Like i said- let people make up their own minds. We're not sheep (though they think we are).
We are supposed to be the masters & the government is our servant. Some where this has been forgotten.

[over50now]

Sorry Kich the Mule.  Refereing to an earlier reply about travelling velocity outside schools

[over50now]

Yep, the answer is minority, messing up for the vast majority of decent law abiding citizens.

Trying to keep up with the discussion points without speeding

[Andy B]

......
Trying to keep up with the discussion points without speeding

Ha de oppsin' ha  

[over50now]

Well, stirred things up a bit.

Now knackered, going to switch off now.

If I have offended anyone, apologise for you.

Did say on my original post - emotive subject.

Thanks everyone for their interest. Good old moan and discussion

[waspy]

Another thing we've all done= what's the speed limit on this road, i missed the sign as i entered the limit, because i was destracted by a child, bicycle, horse, etc. You where destracted because there was far more important things to consider, keeping the child, horse rider alive. Then you're thinking " why's this guy right up my chuff, should i be going faster", but yes i should, it's a forty limit & they haven't put repeater signs up like they should.
I see we're being penalised for the authourities mistakes, they build a new road & then put up a camera (cameras are only being placed in accident black spots) so they build accident black spot into new roads, well who's fault is that :-?

[GG]

Sorry Kich the Mule.  Refereing to an earlier reply about travelling velocity outside schools

How about a reply to my point about these vans, I have more examples  

[HerefordElite]

'dangle berries'

safety SCAMeras the lot of them