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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #15 on: 28 October 2009, 19:36:58 »

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Did he kill anyone?...........no
Did he do any damage?......no
Did he mug an old lady?...no.
Did he break into a house ?.no
Did he cause GBH?.......no
Did he murder anyone?....no

A speeding fine and a few points on his licence.....would have   been more appropriate.........
You can burgle a house .....over and over....again and still not get a custodial sentence......Crazy. :-/ :-/ ;)



See, now we have him being defended.

Justifying it by comparison wasnt my point either.

Everything mentioned was/is breaking the law.

 ::) :-X


This is true Skruntie............but.......the other "crimes"....that I mention.......all have a phychological effect on their victims......which can haunt them for years....(just ask anyone who has been mugged.....raped....burgled.).etc... etc
A simple speeding offence ......is just that and nothing more.......
We need to get our priorities right... :-/ :y
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #16 on: 28 October 2009, 19:37:01 »

Quite agree,speed doesnt kill,inappropriate speed does.The speed he was doing would automatically be considered as dangerous in the eyes of the law.He probably pleaded guilty in the hope of a less severe sentence.Looks like it didnt work. ;)
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #17 on: 28 October 2009, 19:38:24 »

Optimist is sounding a bit right wing tonight,are we getting the message through ? :D ;D ;D
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #18 on: 28 October 2009, 19:38:29 »

Live by the sword, die by the sword......

He got caught, he deserves whatever he gets and for anyone to come on here and try to justify it........???!!!!

He should consider himself lucky he is still alive and hasnt killed anyone else during his stupidity.....

And dont try and tell me this was the first time he had wound his bike up that much......

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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #19 on: 28 October 2009, 19:40:17 »

should have a permanent ban from bikes and a hefty fine.




but you have to be aware what could happen :o
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #20 on: 28 October 2009, 19:40:18 »

I wiil conceed that if your going to do it you can expect a severe punishment in todays world.(unless your a policeman) ;)
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #21 on: 28 October 2009, 19:42:03 »

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should have a permanent ban from bikes and a hefty fine.
Aside from a permanent ban being illegal in itself, all that type of sentence does is create another disqualified driver (who obviously won't give a toss if they are banned for life).
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #22 on: 28 October 2009, 19:43:33 »

For me personally, the most comforting thought (the above shocking photo being an exception) that it is normally the motorcyclist that comes off worst if he were to crash at any reasonable speed

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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #23 on: 28 October 2009, 19:44:22 »

Throw away the rather key !!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #24 on: 28 October 2009, 19:44:30 »

so a ban wont work if it is 5 years then by that logic,so maybe jail is the right way to go.
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #25 on: 28 October 2009, 19:44:54 »

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should have a permanent ban from bikes and a hefty fine.
Aside from a permanent ban being illegal in itself, all that type of sentence does is create another disqualified driver (who obviously won't give a toss if they are banned for life).

Why is a permanent ban illegal....??

If it is deserved then I would support a permanent ban to any idiot caught riding/driving with total disregard to the law

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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #26 on: 28 October 2009, 19:47:55 »

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Did he kill anyone?...........no
Did he do any damage?......no
Did he mug an old lady?...no.
Did he break into a house ?.no
Did he cause GBH?.......no
Did he murder anyone?....no
Doesn't matter what didn't happen...at 166 on a public road, the potential for death is staring you in the face.

In fact, at 166mph, a bike will cut straight through a car and remove anybody from the gene pool who happens to be in the way.

People need to be charged  for the consequences....of "what actually happened."......and not for "what might have happened."

If he had killed someone.....then that is a whole different ball game.....

Fact is ......he damaged no property......and no human life........It is a simple speeding offence....and nothing more. :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #27 on: 28 October 2009, 19:51:00 »

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so a ban wont work if it is 5 years then by that logic,so maybe jail is the right way to go.
A 5 year ban may or may not work (depends on the individual), but the recipient will be able to see light at the end of the tunnel.

I'll take it back to basics for you.

Stick an animal in a room with no exit other than the one you are stood in front of.
Unless you show that animal a way out, you are gonna get bitten (and humans are nothing more than animals at the end of the day).


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Why is a permanent ban illegal....??
Courts are not allowed by law to give "indeterminate" sentences, and a life ban is deemed indeterminate.


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If it is deserved then I would support a permanent ban to any idiot caught riding/driving with total disregard to the law
Anybody who has total disregard for the law isn't going to give a toss about a ban, no matter how long it is for.
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #28 on: 28 October 2009, 19:52:11 »

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Did he kill anyone?...........no
Did he do any damage?......no
Did he mug an old lady?...no.
Did he break into a house ?.no
Did he cause GBH?.......no
Did he murder anyone?....no
Doesn't matter what didn't happen...at 166 on a public road, the potential for death is staring you in the face.

In fact, at 166mph, a bike will cut straight through a car and remove anybody from the gene pool who happens to be in the way.

People need to be charged  for the consequences....of "what actually happened."......and not for "what might have happened."

If he had killed someone.....then that is a whole different ball game.....

Fact is ......he damaged no property......and no human life........It is a simple speeding offence....and nothing more. :y :y :y :y :y

Cant believe you said that.  He was lucky not to kill anyone including himself pure and simple. 

Would you be happy if it was the road outside your house where you kids go to and from school/friends/etc?

I believe in a sensible application of speed to the road/car/driver conditions.  If a hazard had presented himself he would not have been able to stop.

Give me 5 mins alone with him and no jail sentence would be required  >:(
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Re: Biker gaoled/jailed
« Reply #29 on: 28 October 2009, 19:54:04 »

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Fact is ......he damaged no property......and no human life........It is a simple speeding offence....and nothing more. :y :y :y :y :y
He created enormous risk for every other road user around him.
I'm not the ark angel gabriel by any means, and I do expect people to be travelling a degree faster than what the limit says.....but 166 is taking the piss on a public highway IMO.
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