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[Kevin Wood]

I thought it was 58 minutes of my life wasted, TBH. The 2 minutes at the end were interesting, though. That road looked perfect. [smiley=evil.gif]

Kevin

[Marks DTM Calib]

and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?

Surprised they chose that setup as its very heavy (not good for that type of car) and the down shifts are slow.

Up-shifting should be quick as your next gear is always pre-engaged.....not so good if you do 2 quick up-shifts though.

[feeutfo]

and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?

Surprised they chose that setup as its very heavy (not good for that type of car) and the down shifts are slow.

Up-shifting should be quick as your next gear is always pre-engaged.....not so good if you do 2 quick up-shifts though.

Suprised me too. Being fiat owned and all that. Must have designed their own? Maybe they have 3 clutches? Hope the warrantys up to it.  :-/

[Blackie_No1]

I liked the Aston, V12, with a proper manual gearbox 

Gotta say that after working with Ferrari and Aston's I am a huge Aston fan. You are just paying for the badge of the Ferrari as the build quality isn't what you'd expect from that brand.

[Marks DTM Calib]

and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?

Surprised they chose that setup as its very heavy (not good for that type of car) and the down shifts are slow.

Up-shifting should be quick as your next gear is always pre-engaged.....not so good if you do 2 quick up-shifts though.

Suprised me too. Being fiat owned and all that. Must have designed their own? Maybe they have 3 clutches? Hope the warrantys up to it.  :-/

No need to design thier own, jut buy a getrag unit (as VAG do, its not thier own) or ZF or any of the other large powertrain suppliers offerings.

A 3 clutch setup would be huge and require 3 gear sets.....trouble is, I always think Italy + Electonics = Headaches! 

[MV6Matt]

I thought it was 58 minutes of my life wasted, TBH. The 2 minutes at the end were interesting, though. That road looked perfect. [smiley=evil.gif]

Kevin

Oh how refreshing, a like minded person!
it used to be mildly worth whatching but no longer

[Mr Skrunts]

I liked the Aston, V12, with a proper manual gearbox 

Love the car but not as a rag top, didnt look half as tasty as the ferrari for me. 

A glance at the Aston from the side as a rag top I am not sure I would recognise it straight away, where as with the the other 2 I reckon I could.

[STMO999]

It was not good. Running out of ideas.

[Kevin Wood]

It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel.

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

[bob.dent]

It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel.

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off.

[tunnie]

It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel.

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off.

Agreed, its all staged, like Clarkson trying to see on the cardboard bog 

It can't be taken too seriously, i always look forward to a new series. Compared to what else is on? Its about the best thing!

[Kevin Wood]

It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel.

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off.

Agreed, its all staged, like Clarkson trying to see on the cardboard bog 

It can't be taken too seriously, i always look forward to a new series. Compared to what else is on? Its about the best thing!

Oh, I appreciate it's not going to deliver serious motoring journalism, but even as pure entertainment I think it's run its' course.

It feels a bit like Little Britain - the same material regurgitated with minor changes. I sit there and think "oh, this'll be the "computer says no!" sketch, then!".

Then again, loads of people liked Little Britain when I thought it was complete tripe. Perhaps it's just me.

Kevin

[tunnie]

It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel.

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off.

Agreed, its all staged, like Clarkson trying to see on the cardboard bog 

It can't be taken too seriously, i always look forward to a new series. Compared to what else is on? Its about the best thing!

Oh, I appreciate it's not going to deliver serious motoring journalism, but even as pure entertainment I think it's run its' course.

It feels a bit like Little Britain - the same material regurgitated with minor changes. I sit there and think "oh, this'll be the "computer says no!" sketch, then!".

Then again, loads of people liked Little Britain when I thought it was complete tripe. Perhaps it's just me.

Kevin

Got my agreement there! I have sat and watched a few episodes start to finish, i was just sat there thinking wtf?

[feeutfo]

BLASPHEMY!

[Mr Skrunts]

So what do you all think they should do to improve the show then.

They have played in shopping malls#
Played on deserted beaches.
Tested cars on Manchester airport.
Broken reckords in getting vechicles to the North Pole.
Done the country a favour and rid of some marina's
Filled cars with water to see how far they would go.
Conted cars and tried to sail them to france and in one case succeeded.
Taught a Reliant Robin how to fly.
Landed a guy with a parachute in a convertable whilst in motion.
Not to mention thier holiday /camping escapades where they set a caravan on fire.
Plus some entertaining cross continent races.



So lets all email the show and demand they turn it into a proper car show a report all the new FWD japanese and foreign crap that hits our shores that we all truly hate and would never consider buying.


Then after a few weeks we can all sit on here and complain about what we miss about top geareven though we mostly agree it was all totally OTT, as lets face it, who in thier right might would test a Toyata Hi-Lux to destrcuction just for the fun of it and plant a field full of seed to to refine thier own fuel.