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[jereboam]

Switch to Oracle!

Then give me a job.

Oracle on Windows.  Errr, no thanks!

They've just bought Sun Microsystems - treat yourself to a Unix system.

I am, of course, attempting to be humorous.    

I quite like Solaris. Proper Unix.

Wonder what Oracle will do with it, as they do their own Oracle Linux (basically Redhat with a search and replace done on source to put OEL in place of RHEL!)

Never liked Unix.  Or to be more accurate, never found any rational way to communicate with it.  It used to fall over all the time.  Solaris was at least reliable.

Don't know anything about Oracle Linux - never actually heard of it before.  Oracle on Redhat works well, but I don't know a lot about that end of it - I (used to) do logical design work mostly, with occasional bits of PL/SQL when needed.  Personally, I never had any problems with Oracle on Windows, but them I'm not a production DBA.

[cem_devecioglu]

Switch to Oracle!

Then give me a job.

Oracle on Windows.  Errr, no thanks!

They've just bought Sun Microsystems - treat yourself to a Unix system.

I am, of course, attempting to be humorous.    

I quite like Solaris. Proper Unix.

Wonder what Oracle will do with it, as they do their own Oracle Linux (basically Redhat with a search and replace done on source to put OEL in place of RHEL!)

Never liked Unix.  Or to be more accurate, never found any rational way to communicate with it.  It used to fall over all the time.  Solaris was at least reliable.

Don't know anything about Oracle Linux - never actually heard of it before.  Oracle on Redhat works well, but I don't know a lot about that end of it - I (used to) do logical design work mostly, with occasional bits of PL/SQL when needed.  Personally, I never had any problems with Oracle on Windows, but them I'm not a production DBA.

Hi Jereboam ,

imho, just download a trial copy of sql 2005 desktop from microsoft site and try it.. its exactly the same as enterprise edition except the db engine.. you will find it quite practical and have many tools.. I guess you wont look back to expensive oracle..

[jereboam]

Hi Jereboam ,

imho, just download a trial copy of sql 2005 desktop from microsoft site and try it.. its exactly the same as enterprise edition except the db engine.. you will find it quite practical and have many tools.. I guess you wont look back to expensive oracle..

Thanks for the advice.  Shortly after I lost my job, I downloaded the Enterprise edition and went through it in detail.  I was quite impressed, and learned a bit about what it can do.  But working at home on my own isn't going to make me an expert.  If I get the opportunity to use it as a Systems Analyst or Designer, I'll know what to do, but I'm never going to achieve DBA skills - don't have that sort of mind.

I was very pleased when the six months trial ran out - I got my PC back again - SQL Server absolutely knackered it.   

[cem_devecioglu]

Hi Jereboam ,

imho, just download a trial copy of sql 2005 desktop from microsoft site and try it.. its exactly the same as enterprise edition except the db engine.. you will find it quite practical and have many tools.. I guess you wont look back to expensive oracle..

Thanks for the advice.  Shortly after I lost my job, I downloaded the Enterprise edition and went through it in detail.  I was quite impressed, and learned a bit about what it can do.  But working at home on my own isn't going to make me an expert.  If I get the opportunity to use it as a Systems Analyst or Designer, I'll know what to do, but I'm never going to achieve DBA skills - don't have that sort of mind.

I was very pleased when the six months trial ran out - I got my PC back again - SQL Server absolutely knackered it.   

Trust me not too much effort required to be an MS SQL DBA.. You already know PL/SQL.. Routine things like back up,recovery, tuning with system parameters is mostly adequate..

I as a programmer learned everything myself from its documentary although took some time and mostly under disaster conditions  , briefly you learn very quickly in case of emergency..


 Microsoft from time to time makes DBA exams from its books and documentary , you can get a certified DBA level easliy  imho.. (but you need to pay money for those exams unfortunately)


ps: Enterprise edition mostly is for multiple CPU servers..Although initial configuration dont utilize too much system source.. You can get this by playing with parameters and configuration..

[jereboam]

Hi Jereboam ,

imho, just download a trial copy of sql 2005 desktop from microsoft site and try it.. its exactly the same as enterprise edition except the db engine.. you will find it quite practical and have many tools.. I guess you wont look back to expensive oracle..

Thanks for the advice.  Shortly after I lost my job, I downloaded the Enterprise edition and went through it in detail.  I was quite impressed, and learned a bit about what it can do.  But working at home on my own isn't going to make me an expert.  If I get the opportunity to use it as a Systems Analyst or Designer, I'll know what to do, but I'm never going to achieve DBA skills - don't have that sort of mind.

I was very pleased when the six months trial ran out - I got my PC back again - SQL Server absolutely knackered it.   

Trust me not too much effort required to be an MS SQL DBA.. You already know PL/SQL.. Routine things like back up,recovery, tuning with system parameters is mostly adequate..

I as a programmer learned everything myself from its documentary although took some time and mostly under disaster conditions  , briefly you learn very quickly in case of emergency..


 Microsoft from time to time makes DBA exams from its books and documentary , you can get a certified DBA level easliy  imho.. (but you need to pay money for those exams unfortunately)


ps: Enterprise edition mostly is for multiple CPU servers..Although initial configuration dont utilize too much system source.. You can get this by playing with parameters and configuration..

Trust me not too much effort required to be an MS SQL DBA
Probably true.  But the job market in UK is highly competitive, and "book learning" doesn't count for much - they want to see that you have done it before.  I've done DBA work when there wasn't anyone else there to do it, but it's not my type of job - you need to remember too many details, and I'm far to old to enjoy that any more.  Anyway, although DBAs are well paid, I can earn more doing design and architect work.  Or I could before now - there don't seem to be any jobs for me at the moment.

Enterprise edition mostly is for multiple CPU servers..Although initial configuration dont utilize too much system source.. You can get this by playing with parameters and configuration..
Yeah!!! It didn't work at all at first 'cos it demanded all the system resources.  I had to shut down the bits I didn't want to use and reconfigure the rest in order find out what it could do.  I was very impressed, but I first worked on Oracle in 1986 (as a DBA, believe it or not), and I think I will always want to do things the Oracle way.