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[albitz]

The main point is a bed & breakfast establishment is a commercial concern offering a service to ALL who pass their doors.

The law stipulates that in a business such as this, or in any of the service industries, such as retailing, you cannot and must not discriminate.  You MUST offer and provide your service to all, unless there is some point of law as to why you cannot serve an individual i.e. in a pub not serving an individual with alcohol if they are already intoxicated.

Homosexuals is the problem this time round.  It is a slippery slope to what I witnessed in my childhood; notices in windows stating:

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         No Irish
         No Dogs
         No Blacks
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I disagree Lizzie. there are no possible issues of morality/faith/conscience around Irish/dogs/blacks, its just bigotry , and I have been subject to it in the past.
Ther are however people who due to faith or personal morality believe that homosexuality is wrong and I believe they should be allowed to hold that view without having the state  having the power to inflict whatever punishment it sees fit.So a different issue imo, but its very convenient  (for those with an agenda) to try to convince us all that its all the same issue which cant be seperated. All the minorities joined together hoping to be  the majority ?

[Debs.]

If I ran a B&B (God forbid), I would find an excuse for barring anyone I didn't like the look of. But, unfortunately, I would probably have an empty guest house for most of the time.

Brings to mind the old-saying:

  "There's nowt so queer as folk and even thee's a little queer!"

[Lizzie_Zoom]

The main point is a bed & breakfast establishment is a commercial concern offering a service to ALL who pass their doors.

The law stipulates that in a business such as this, or in any of the service industries, such as retailing, you cannot and must not discriminate.  You MUST offer and provide your service to all, unless there is some point of law as to why you cannot serve an individual i.e. in a pub not serving an individual with alcohol if they are already intoxicated.

Homosexuals is the problem this time round.  It is a slippery slope to what I witnessed in my childhood; notices in windows stating:

        [size=24]"[/size]
         No Irish
         No Dogs
         No Blacks
                      [size=24]"[/size]

I disagree Lizzie. there are no possible issues of morality/faith/conscience around Irish/dogs/blacks, its just bigotry , and I have been subject to it in the past.
Ther are however people who due to faith or personal morality believe that homosexuality is wrong and I believe they should be allowed to hold that view without having the state  having the power to inflict whatever punishment it sees fit.So a different issue imo, but its very convenient  (for those with an agenda) to try to convince us all that its all the same issue which cant be seperated. All the minorities joined together hoping to be  the majority ?

Good point there Albs!

I take your point completely, but is not bigotry behind at least some of the 'banning' of homosexuals from B&B's? :-/ :-/

[albitz]

Can one be bigoted due to ones personal morality ? discuss ?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Can one be bigoted due to ones personal morality ? discuss ?

I think so Albs, but not absolutely sure.

Obviously not with dogs (well I don't think so!), but with for instance the awful situation with blacks it could well have been.  In distant days White's really did believe blacks were close to the devil, and anything black could not be trusted or allowed to mix with whites in case there was "contamination" .  Seems absolutely incredible and disgusting now, but that was a lot of people's belief!  Their 'morality' then played a part to keep blacks away from their lives at all levels.  That is bigotry I suggest.

[STMO999]

I think you should be true to yourself. If homosexuals truly offended your sense of dignity, then do what you think is right and accept the consequences.
Your B&B will get lots of free publicity and you will be fully booked for years.

[Kevin Wood]

Well, Mrs. KW and I once turned up to stay at a B&B to find it was run by a couple of homosexual men. There's an interesting scenario for you.

I wouldn't hesitate to go back. They had the best home-made marmalade I've ever tasted, and even gave us a jar to take away.

Kevin

[Sixstring]

There is a B+B in Weymouth that has a sign stating "All welcome, including all faiths, sexual orientation, and ethinicity"
Now THATS an "I don't care who you are" policy!!!

(by the way, the owner is a really nice man and his partner, I have stayed there, and would not hesitate to again.)

[Chris_H]

Going back to the OP's question "why is all this suddenly an issue", I think the answer is clearly that there is a general election coming up and all parties with vested interests are blowing up anything they can find to besmirch the competition.

Simple.

It is around election time that politicians reserve the right to put on camouflage and use smoke and mirrors to portray their "deeply-held beliefs" which coincidentally gets the largest number of gullible voters to put a tick in their box.

Even a cynic can be right sometimes.

[ChevetteNick]

Well, Mrs. KW and I once turned up to stay at a B&B to find it was run by a couple of homosexual men. There's an interesting scenario for you.

I wouldn't hesitate to go back. They had the best home-made marmalade I've ever tasted, and even gave us a jar to take away.

Kevin

Were you supposed to eat it

[Kevin Wood]

Well, Mrs. KW and I once turned up to stay at a B&B to find it was run by a couple of homosexual men. There's an interesting scenario for you.

I wouldn't hesitate to go back. They had the best home-made marmalade I've ever tasted, and even gave us a jar to take away.

Kevin

Were you supposed to eat it

I damned well wasn't about to do anything else with it. 

Kevin

[PhilRich]

Can one be bigoted due to ones personal morality ? discuss ?

I think so Albs, but not absolutely sure.

Obviously not with dogs (well I don't think so!), but with for instance the awful situation with blacks it could well have been.  In distant days White's really did believe blacks were close to the devil, and anything black could not be trusted or allowed to mix with whites in case there was "contamination" .  Seems absolutely incredible and disgusting now, but that was a lot of people's belief!  Their 'morality' then played a part to keep blacks away from their lives at all levels.  That is bigotry I suggest.

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More ignorance than Bigotry IMHO Lizzie

[PhilRich]

Well, Mrs. KW and I once turned up to stay at a B&B to find it was run by a couple of homosexual men. There's an interesting scenario for you.

I wouldn't hesitate to go back. They had the best home-made marmalade I've ever tasted, and even gave us a jar to take away.

Kevin

Were you supposed to eat it

I damned well wasn't about to do anything else with it. 

Kevin

Home made marmalade can take the enamel off your teeth, Gawd knows what it would do to 'soft tissue' areas!

[mantahatch]

:-? so how come Sandals holiday resort can legally advertise for mixed couples only?

Most, if not all holiday brochures and resorts say something like 'no single sex groups' now is 2 people a group ?

I believe it was originally intended to stop a large group of lads or ladies ruining family holidays. Now I must admit I do not like to see gay behaviour in public. I sssume this makes me some kind of 'ist', I can counter this with the gay lads that live opposite my wifes great grandmother. They are 2 very good people, I speak to them 2 to 3 times a year when visiting and great grandmother speaks very highly of them aswell.
Of course at her age she merely thinks they are 2 'gay' bachelors waiting for miss right to come along. She is rather elderly and probably has no idea that gay people exsist.

[jerry]

ive known a few gay men and women and have no problem with their sexual orientation at all. I do remember going to a pub with a lesbian relative however and getting a bit of abuse from a group of dykes who seemed to want it as "their" pub when in fact it was one that was known to have a mix of both straight and gay clientel. All this brings to mind the arguments over "private clubs" , whether you could have clubs based on shared interests/politics/religion etc . Would these be classed as "discrimination"? Could a Tory join a Labour club or a woman a "gentlemans" club or a Wolves fan a Baggies club? And what about all the "smart casual/no jeans"  policies in clubs-is this "jeansist"? . At least you can be black or asian and join the BNP now....