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[albitz]

Still the best forum on the net, but not what it once was imo, but everything changes I suppose. Thats life as they say. Maybe the fun element will return  in time. :-/

[Elite Pete]

Personally, I think the forum has changed but I couldn't say how or why, but I know I have made some good friends over the years and I really look forward to seeing them at the Lakes or Newent. I was gutted last year when I missed Newent.

Just like to add, I don't think the forum is a bad place, I still have a laugh and enjoy being on here

[MikeDundee]

...
 As Entwood always says  .....

Is he holding up some French Autoroute somewhere in France? :-/ I haven't seen him post for a while. 

Hhe'll be on his annual caravan camping hols!!!

[STMO999]

Like a gang of old women. I'm the only one who's normal.

[Proz]

Is OOF broken ? ..... i dont think so ...... However i would say it HAS changed in the nearly 2 years i been on here (15. May 2008 ).  There has been a dramatic increase in bitching in some areas which i never bothered to get involved in because some of it was really childish and pathetic .
There are always going to be people that will never see eye to eye .

Having said that this is by far the best forum for our cars by a long long way and the vast majority of people are very friendly and helpfull .  Whe i log on my pc this is the first place i look and the last place before turning off .
The help i have given on here has been invaluable and i always try to help someone who is having the same kind of issues i have had , i just wish i was a bit better or more confident with the spanners  :-/
It would be a very sad day if this site ceased to be .
I think the people that run this site should be applauded for there efforts .
I dont often get involved in topics like this but its just my tuppence worth 

[Dishevelled Den]

Of course it isn't broken.  While the general tenor of many topics in the GD area has undoubtedly changed over the years - change is inevitable and indeed necessary - the core reason for this forum to exist remains the promotion and maintenance of GM Omega cars (and their variants).

The fact that a vibrant membership was likely to develop to this degree as a result was, perhaps, not uppermost in the minds of those who formed the Forum - but developed it has.  This can only be a force for good as I feel that the depth of diversity within the membership can only strengthen and maintain any bond to it.

As a result of my present circumstances I'm unlikely to have the privilege of meeting many of the membership, but I'm gratified by the fact that I’m able to participate in a group comprised of so many fine people, therefore on each and every occasion I log onto this site I consider myself fortunate indeed to have the opportunity to do so.

On the point of the segregation of topics this is, in my view, unnecessary as there is sufficient scope already available in the General Car Chat for those who prefer to discuss motoring matters unconnected with the wider range of topics presently seen in the General Discussion area. 

The reason that this Forum stands above many others, in my view, is the ability of the membership to turn their collective thoughts to the very topics aired here on a regular basis. These should remain active in the General Discussion Area so that the maximum number of members can have the opportunity to state their opinions and contribute to the greater understanding of diversity and learning.

To conclude, this Forum is in many aspects falls victim to its own success, this is not a bad thing; it should celebrated and built upon. This success, in part, results from having such a simplified structure in the layout, to complicate matters by segregating topics would be, in my estimation, a retrograde step - but whatever decision is made, I will continue to consider myself lucky to be allowed to participate.

So, to those who created and maintain the Forum, to those who nurtured it in the early years and to those wonderfully diverse people who presently contribute in such a varied, amusing, well-informed, thought-provoking and sometimes frustrating way, I thank you.   

[jerry]

Ive been a member for about 2 years now and whilst there have been times -due to work mostly-that I havent been that "regular" on here, being a member of the OOF is one of the few things I get chance to do outside of work and I really enjoy being on here. Yes, there probably have been more examples of "bitchiness" in some threads than I had noticed in the past but these have been few and far between. I joined because I got a mig and felt it would be useful (particularly as I'm not very mechanically minded!) in terms of advice. I was not dissapointed. Everyone quickly proved more than willing to help and everyone seemed most welcoming and friendly. Ive learnt quite a bit from people on here about my car and in the process saved myself more than a few bob and I am most grateful to the generosity and knowledge of those members-not least for their patience with someone like me who only has the barest of understanding of all things motor related. But its been the "vibe" of the forum thats kept me coming back, the banter, the jokes, the links ,the discussions (serious or not), the empathy and really the general feeling of care and support of oneanother. The forum-like all forums-is an organic thing, it grows and changes as people drop out and new ones come in but the "spirit" of the thing seems to have remained much the same as it was when I joined, and for that Im grateful and give thanks to the admins and all the regulars on here that make the OOF the great forum it still is

[Nickbat]

Oh, come on. Where else would you find a thread about sewage? 

[Lazydocker]

Is it broken? No, not really.

I have made some good friends through this forum, some of whom I have never met (and quite possibly never will!) Not so long back I decided to help Tunnie with his LPG conversion... I'd never met him in person before I pulled up outside his house but after many long evenings of banter and taking the mick I felt like I knew him reasonably well... A sign that there are people on here who are more than just a screen name

Likewise at Newent last year... I knew a few of the people attending from the East Anglia meet earlier in the year but the majority of people were "strangers" to us. That said, within about 5 minutes of meeting Daz we had started some banter like old friends

It has changed considerably in the 2 years I've been a member and there is a little less of the banter a lot of the time. That said, I remember an evening (not long back) when a certain member of the Admin team was "playing" with our titles and it provoked a bout of the old banter

That proves that it's still the same old place (in the nicest possible way) but, IMO, people have been a little more careful in what they post because there was a bout of some very rude remarks from some members.

Just my take on it

But it's definitely not broken... Just quiet at the moment!

Perhaps a bout of "Post Count Culling" will result in the normal hive of activity

[jonnycool]

Is it broken? No, not really.

I have made some good friends through this forum, some of whom I have never met (and quite possibly never will!) Not so long back I decided to help Tunnie with his LPG conversion... I'd never met him in person before I pulled up outside his house but after many long evenings of banter and taking the mick I felt like I knew him reasonably well... A sign that there are people on here who are more than just a screen name

Likewise at Newent last year... I knew a few of the people attending from the East Anglia meet earlier in the year but the majority of people were "strangers" to us. That said, within about 5 minutes of meeting Daz we had started some banter like old friends

It has changed considerably in the 2 years I've been a member and there is a little less of the banter a lot of the time. That said, I remember an evening (not long back) when a certain member of the Admin team was "playing" with our titles and it provoked a bout of the old banter

That proves that it's still the same old place (in the nicest possible way) but, IMO, people have been a little more careful in what they post because there was a bout of some very rude remarks from some members.

Just my take on it

But it's definitely not broken... Just quiet at the moment!

Perhaps a bout of "Post Count Culling" will result in the normal hive of activity

Yes, I think some people are a bit wary of taking the banter a bit far because they know that someone or other will take issue with what they've said

STMO excepted of course

Jon

[Dishevelled Den]

Oh, come on. Where else would you find a thread about sewage? 

Keek, as it's known in the trade

[Varche]

The forum has matured as all forums do.

It will be nice to see the back of the election for sure even though we all had strong opinions on the subject.

I think the General Help section has changed dramatically since I joined all those years ago. Then if I posted a paperclip test code query the ratio of "sages" and replies was much higher than now. The one I posted yesterday with code 135 was a good example. In otherwords there are too many postings for folk to follow. I know I don't read all the General Help questions anymore just the ones that I think I might be able to contribute to (e.g. ABS ECU, self levelling shockers, gearbox thrust washers....) 

Having said that it is a brilliant forum and without doubt has prolonged the life of my car depite it being terminally ill!!   Long live OOF

[Crazydad]

Like a gang of old women. I'm the only one who's normal.

PMSL 

[Sixstring]

Oh, come on. Where else would you find a thread about sewage? 



Keek, as it's known in the trade [/quote]


Spent 5 years working for a company that makes pumps to move sewage about. The boys used to call it that, too, but mostly they called it "mum's gravy" for some strange reason.

(I just called it SH*T)

[TheBoy]

I've read all the (one-sided?) comments above with interest, and thankyou for all your opinions , though we need to see, and understand the critisisms as well.


So it would appear that nobody thinks its broken, but most feel something isn't quite right?

Please post your ideas, publically or privately (I'll clear down my inbox in a sec), as I think we all believe something has gone amiss in the past few months....