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[Dishevelled Den]

Piece of cake then, you just need a 360 plugged into your telly in the remote location and plugged into the network.
IIRC the extenders bit of the MCE settings then walks you through the authorisation process and away you go.

That's great Capt., I knew laying all those wires was going to come in handy at some point.

May be worth picking up a cheap 360 on the bay and having a play about with it. Just ensure you get a HDMI model if your tv supports it.

    I've just fired it up

If you're not going to be playing games HD size isn't an issue but I believe having a drive connected speeds up response slightly (stores some info rather than downloading it from MCE every time) and who knows you might decide to play a few games which is where the HD comes into it's own.
Copying a game to the HD makes it quieter, faster and saves wear on the dvd drive and disc.
But the HD are a clip on unit so can be added later or replaced with larger at a later date.

I've been working my way through the listings to get to know what's  what.  The more I see of this confirms that it's an ideal solution to at least one problem I have.  I also see drive units listed for reasonable money as well.

I'll let you know how I get on as, knowing me, I'll be bidding on one sooner rather than later.

[CaptainZok]

Piece of cake then, you just need a 360 plugged into your telly in the remote location and plugged into the network.
IIRC the extenders bit of the MCE settings then walks you through the authorisation process and away you go.

That's great Capt., I knew laying all those wires was going to come in handy at some point.

May be worth picking up a cheap 360 on the bay and having a play about with it. Just ensure you get a HDMI model if your tv supports it.

    I've just fired it up

If you're not going to be playing games HD size isn't an issue but I believe having a drive connected speeds up response slightly (stores some info rather than downloading it from MCE every time) and who knows you might decide to play a few games which is where the HD comes into it's own.
Copying a game to the HD makes it quieter, faster and saves wear on the dvd drive and disc.


But the HD are a clip on unit so can be added later or replaced with larger at a later date.

Thought the HD only stored game results or info, and you didnt play the game from the HD (other wise people would group  together and buy a disk  and all copy to thier HD)

Are you sating the HD (as in Hard drive) is not standard as you say it will cipp on afterwards.  Mentions 250GB Standard. or are you saying tou can add a 2nd one.

You can copy the game to the hd and run it from there, the flaw in your plan being the game disc must be in the drive whilst playing similar to a pc game where the game data is installed to your hd but needs to see the disc before it will play.
The arcade boxes don't come with the hd module the others come with varying sizes of drive from 20 to 250Gb which plug onto the side of the 360. The new slims use a different type of drive module which lives under a panel on the side of the box and uses a different type of housing and connection.
The new drives just look like a laptop sata connection whereas the older drives use a proprietory ms sata connection.
Whichever you have the 360 will only take one 360 drive at a time but you can now use usb sticks/external drives for playing media/storing game info.

[CaptainZok]

Piece of cake then, you just need a 360 plugged into your telly in the remote location and plugged into the network.
IIRC the extenders bit of the MCE settings then walks you through the authorisation process and away you go.

That's great Capt., I knew laying all those wires was going to come in handy at some point.

May be worth picking up a cheap 360 on the bay and having a play about with it. Just ensure you get a HDMI model if your tv supports it.

    I've just fired it up

If you're not going to be playing games HD size isn't an issue but I believe having a drive connected speeds up response slightly (stores some info rather than downloading it from MCE every time) and who knows you might decide to play a few games which is where the HD comes into it's own.
Copying a game to the HD makes it quieter, faster and saves wear on the dvd drive and disc.
But the HD are a clip on unit so can be added later or replaced with larger at a later date.

I've been working my way through the listings to get to know what's  what.  The more I see of this confirms that it's an ideal solution to at least one problem I have.  I also see drive units listed for reasonable money as well.

I'll let you know how I get on as, knowing me, I'll be bidding on one sooner rather than later.

I've got the 120Gb elite model downstairs which is great for gaming, if anything the 250 hd would allow me to have more games copied on the drive at once but it's hardly limiting.
Upstairs I have an arcade with a 20 Gb drive and remote control which is more than enough to run as just an MCE extender.
The drive size is less of a factor for an extender as media is played from the main MCE box.

[Dishevelled Den]

I've got the 120Gb elite model downstairs which is great for gaming, if anything the 250 hd would allow me to have more games copied on the drive at once but it's hardly limiting.
Upstairs I have an arcade with a 20 Gb drive and remote control which is more than enough to run as just an MCE extender.
The drive size is less of a factor for an extender as media is played from the main MCE box.

Does the one you're using as the extender run quitely enough?

[Marks DTM Calib]

I guess also:

4) to overcome the RROD damage that has plaugued the machine, even though the 'Jaspers' pretty much solved it anyway.  But by making it appear a 'new' design, it should loose some of that historic baggage.


But cost is probably primary, as they need to reduce prices to restimulate interest after Nintendo have wiped the floor with the lower specced Wii.

I suspect Item 4 will actualy be cost to.

I suspect they have done a die shrick on the silicon to save costs (more chips per wafer). This should reduce power usegae and would require new lower voltage core supplies (hence new psu).

Lower power should make them run cooler and hence a slimmer heat management solution cna be used....they may have improved the mechanics which might help the RROD but, the heatsinks should be lighter anyway as a result of the cost reduction.

[CaptainZok]

I've got the 120Gb elite model downstairs which is great for gaming, if anything the 250 hd would allow me to have more games copied on the drive at once but it's hardly limiting.
Upstairs I have an arcade with a 20 Gb drive and remote control which is more than enough to run as just an MCE extender.
The drive size is less of a factor for an extender as media is played from the main MCE box.

Does the one you're using as the extender run quitely enough?

Damn site quieter than the old 1 gig athlon box I had running before it.
Mind youI'm a bit deaf these days but it's not annoying when in use, can't hear it over the tv tbh.

[Dishevelled Den]

I've got the 120Gb elite model downstairs which is great for gaming, if anything the 250 hd would allow me to have more games copied on the drive at once but it's hardly limiting.
Upstairs I have an arcade with a 20 Gb drive and remote control which is more than enough to run as just an MCE extender.
The drive size is less of a factor for an extender as media is played from the main MCE box.

Does the one you're using as the extender run quitely enough?

Damn site quieter than the old 1 gig athlon box I had running before it.
Mind youI'm a bit deaf these days but it's not annoying when in use, can't hear it over the tv tbh.

It'll also be quiter than the old HP box I want to replace I'm sure.

[CaptainZok]

Plus the 360 is only running when you're watching/listening to media. All recording is done on the MCE itself then streamed to the box when you're watching it.

[omegadan67]

Sony can command a higher price for their (equally bad) gayStation, partly because Sony consumers are like BMW consumers (as in loyalty, not willing to see beyond their preferred brand), and partly because everyone loves to hate Microsoft.  Also, gayStation can do BluGay (and is the only BluGay player worth buying as Sony keep changing the bloody spec!!)

Rather jaded comments there.

I don't see any negatives in owning a PS3.

• Great, updatable Bluray player

• Same games you get on the Xbox

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• Free online gaming (unlike the Xbox)

If you don't like it don't buy one, but I really fail to see why you would call it gay?

As i recall ps3 have a similar rrod as xbox not all xbox games are availible to ps3 and vice versa

some expansion packs for certain games come out on xbox before ps3 several months in some cases

Xbox has a better online gaming than the ps3 in my opinion I have owned both and prefer the xbox os much that we have 4 in the house 1 for me and the wife and 3 for the kids


BUT at the end of the day you pays your money and takes your choice personal preference will always guide you to what you buy

[omegadan67]

I guess also:

4) to overcome the RROD damage that has plaugued the machine, even though the 'Jaspers' pretty much solved it anyway.  But by making it appear a 'new' design, it should loose some of that historic baggage.


But cost is probably primary, as they need to reduce prices to restimulate interest after Nintendo have wiped the floor with the lower specced Wii.

I suspect Item 4 will actualy be cost to.

I suspect they have done a die shrick on the silicon to save costs (more chips per wafer). This should reduce power usegae and would require new lower voltage core supplies (hence new psu).

Lower power should make them run cooler and hence a slimmer heat management solution cna be used....they may have improved the mechanics which might help the RROD but, the heatsinks should be lighter anyway as a result of the cost reduction.

they have solved the rrod on the jasper console by making the heatsinks 40% bigger and redirecting the exhaust heat fans and extraction plus they run cooler due to not putting the graphics chip and processor chip next to each other

[CaptainZok]

RROD is a non issue nowadays really, they've covered it by extending the warranty on red ringing and E74 to three years. Shame sony couldn't do the same on their consoles.

[TheBoy]

Only the PS3 can play GOTY 2009

I'm not even gonna bother working out what that is. It sounds every bit as gay as the gayStation it runs on...

[TheBoy]

RROD is a non issue nowadays really, they've covered it by extending the warranty on red ringing and E74 to three years. Shame sony couldn't do the same on their consoles.

Simply because Sony are the scum of the earth, and know people will always buy their junk.  Much like modern BMW really

If you want BluGay, PS3 is the only real option, as other BluGay manufacturers are, even now, struggling with constant updates that Sony insist on.

[Mr Skrunts]

Only the PS3 can play GOTY 2009

I'm not even gonna bother working out what that is. It sounds every bit as gay as the gayStation it runs on...

He allways talks in riddles foes Martin and expects us all to know what he is talking about. 

Should be banned like text speak  :-/

Am assuming its

GOTY = game of the year for 2009. 

Modern Warfare 2

[BigAl]

doubt it, as Modern Warfare 2 is available on the 360