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[SJKOO01]

Well here's an extended video of the events before he was pulled over a 2nd time ?!.

Would be interested to see what people say after seeing this video of events ??.

One questions I do have though before getting all of the facts, how come it too the old boy soo long to pull over ?.

Oh... there's some drivel advertising at the begining of it, so you'll have to excuse that bit

http://www.mirror.co.uk/video/news/2010/08/05/oap-robert-whatley-dragged-from-his-car-by-police-115875-22467698/

[Banjax]

I agree with everything Zulu's said - I won't re-quote it all, but the police have to remember, whatever the reason for this reaction (and I'm sure there's more to it than the police just going radio rental for nothing), that they police us with the consent of the people it is not the other way round

[steve_daly]

The moment he made off after being stopped the first time, he upped the game and becomes a danger to others and potentially anything could happen.

I do see both sides to the discussion but I would still rather see the police deal with offenders quickly and sharply than stepping back for fear of public opinions.

[tidla]

marked car, blues and twos on, the only reason for stopping is the assumed roadblock/stinger set up as an officer approaches from the front of the vehicle.

the last respectable driver of vogue to be stopped on roadwars turned out to be a bank robber on the run...

[Dishevelled Den]

Just what would George Dixon think?.....   

He would have fallen to the universal greeting of course. 8-)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZT5Fq7KuPk&feature=related[/media]

[hotel21]

Just what would George Dixon think?.....   

Good old George was shot, remember.  And that was the end of that style of policing .......

[Dishevelled Den]

Just what would George Dixon think?.....   

Good old George was shot, remember.  And that was the end of that style of policing .......

Yep, Braybrook Street certainly brought that era to an end.

[Elite Pete]

The moment he made off after being stopped the first time, he upped the game and becomes a danger to others and potentially anything could happen.

I do see both sides to the discussion but I would still rather see the police deal with offenders quickly and sharply than stepping back for fear of public opinions.

Would you be saying the same thing if it was your father?

Now i'm not a copper (although my daughter is) and I wouldn't want to be one  but if I was following the bloke in the Range Rover knowing how old he was from pulling him earlier I would of done a check with the PNC got his address and waited there for him there, simples

[alfie]

Thats my local"Police Sevice"at work.

[Mr Skrunts]

He may simply be going deaf and did not hear everything correctly.  :-/

[Elite Pete]

He may simply be going deaf and did not hear everything correctly.  :-/

What?

[steve_daly]

The moment he made off after being stopped the first time, he upped the game and becomes a danger to others and potentially anything could happen.

I do see both sides to the discussion but I would still rather see the police deal with offenders quickly and sharply than stepping back for fear of public opinions.

Would you be saying the same thing if it was your father?

Now i'm not a copper (although my daughter is) and I wouldn't want to be one  but if I was following the bloke in the Range Rover knowing how old he was from pulling him earlier I would of done a check with the PNC got his address and waited there for him there, simples

Why do people always do that lol.

Would a PNC check have informed the following officer if the old chap had a gun and was suicidal? Had a kidnapped child in the car?

Perhaps a better outcome would have been that they let him continue driving in a distressed state and plough into a woman and child crossing the road and then pick him up at home. Would your liberal attitude still be apparent if it was your wife and child?

I am sure then the uproar would be "Well why the hell didn't they stop him sooner"

[Mr Skrunts]

Rufus, I understand the points you make, but lets look at a very simple fact.

None of us know the real reasons begind any of this, so we? - No we dont.

Who does know the facts?  well of course the police do.

What have the police done, suspended the 2 officers.

Till we know any more they have done the best thing.

But, dont you think if there was anything in the guilt side of the 70 year old they would have stood in favour of the police officers rather than suspend them.

[steve_daly]

Of course none of us know the facts, we are just debating on what we can see and clearly we all have differing opinions, which is why discussions like this are interesting

I am sure that 'public opinion' and the fact that this is headline news will have just as much to do with the officers suspention than wether their approach was heavy handed or not.

Fact is, their actions could well have prevented a tragedy.

[Mr Skrunts]

Of course none of us know the facts, we are just debating on what we can see and clearly we all have differing opinions, which is why discussions like this are interesting

I am sure that 'public opinion' and the fact that this is headline news will have just as much to do with the officers suspention than wether their approach was heavy handed or not.

Fact is, their actions could well have prevented a tragedy.

Or started contrversy