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« Reply #15 on: 03 September 2010, 00:22:48 »
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thank you sir!!!!im not gonna roy bacer it up.....gonna make it very much a sleeper to piss the 1.1saxo kru off with their hhhhhhuuuumungous spoiler and pram style wheels..... ::)

I say "Oh Dear" because I wonder if you have the sense to uprate everything else, other than the engine.  A V6 Corsa will require extensive modifications to the chassis, suspension and braking system before it is remotely safe to be used. 

Please tell me you do!
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« Reply #16 on: 03 September 2010, 00:27:01 »
well........i have the f20 manual box with 200bhp shafts,2ltr hubs,2.5v6 vectra brakes(callipers & hoses)some dot 5 brake fluid,strut braces front and rear, and most importantly...........a big angle grinder and welder! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 03 September 2010, 00:27:44 »
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2.5 v6 corsa...
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Sounds like it to me!
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« Reply #18 on: 03 September 2010, 00:28:26 »
oh and coilovers front and uprated shocks n springs rear  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 03 September 2010, 00:29:19 »
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2.5 v6 corsa...
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Sounds like it to me!
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hm.........thats the spirit! :'(
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« Reply #20 on: 03 September 2010, 00:30:29 »
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well........i have the f20 manual box with 200bhp shafts,2ltr hubs,2.5v6 vectra brakes(callipers & hoses)some dot 5 brake fluid,strut braces front and rear, and most importantly...........a big angle grinder and welder! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Say goodbye to your gearbox within weeks.  You need an F23 minimum as I guess you are building this to drive it at it's potential.

Brakes should be sufficient, ensure you alter the bias...... no weight over the ass of a corsa.

Suspension and Chassis Mods?
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« Reply #21 on: 03 September 2010, 00:34:02 »
what can i get f23 out of???never looked into it as i was told f20 would be plenty!ive seen a 3.0v6 with f20 and it was ok.the only chassis mods really are gonna be from the strut braces and uprated suspension......i wanna keep it low key so no roll cage!
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« Reply #22 on: 03 September 2010, 00:38:28 »
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what can i get f23 out of???never looked into it as i was told f20 would be plenty!ive seen a 3.0v6 with f20 and it was ok.the only chassis mods really are gonna be from the strut braces and uprated suspension......i wanna keep it low key so no roll cage!

You only need a roll cage if you plan on rolling it!  ;D

You will need to strengthen the Chassis legs and the firewall area, including strut top mount fixing points.  The suspension will be hit or miss.  I'd advise using a good adjustable setup, so you can adjust it and get it 'right'.

F23 maybe F25, look out for (expensive and rare on the market) Cavalier V6/Calibra V6 6 Speed Variants.

EDIT: F20 = suitable for 200BHP.  A 3.0V6 at factory gives 207BHP.  I'd annihilate that box with a few traffic light derby's.
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« Reply #23 on: 03 September 2010, 00:44:42 »
the coilover setup i got is adjustable and the strut braces bolt from strut top to strut top eradicating any excess flex...........wow, i almost sounded like i knew what i was talkin bout then!lol.i think ill take my chances with f20 for now and if it goes pop then look for the more expensive route....plus its a pain in the arse changing the gear selector gate and all the linkages!......6 speed v6 corsa....hmmmmmmmmmm
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« Reply #24 on: 03 September 2010, 00:45:58 »
factory 2.5v6 only about 170ish......f20 should be ok!!!!!whoop whoop
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« Reply #25 on: 03 September 2010, 00:50:25 »
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the coilover setup i got is adjustable and the strut braces bolt from strut top to strut top eradicating any excess flex...........wow, i almost sounded like i knew what i was talkin bout then!lol.i think ill take my chances with f20 for now and if it goes pop then look for the more expensive route....plus its a pain in the arse changing the gear selector gate and all the linkages!......6 speed v6 corsa....hmmmmmmmmmm

To be fair, you have obviously done a fair bit of homework, and I'm really interested in following your progress.  When you start the project, start a thread in the Gallery and keep your day to day workings there (if you have time lol).  Not only will it give everyone else something to follow, it will help when you (may) need assistance, but will also provide a good diary of what you have achieved!  I wish you all the best of luck in it  :y
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« Reply #26 on: 03 September 2010, 00:51:54 »
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factory 2.5v6 only about 170ish......f20 should be ok!!!!!whoop whoop
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Unlikely, not with several high rev drop the clutch pull-aways.  Trust me, I put four boxes in my Vectra GSi.  ;)
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« Reply #27 on: 03 September 2010, 00:57:18 »
Thank you kind sir......i actually have to admit that i been workin on cars almost 6 years solid and ive helped build....well rebuild 3x 2ltr astras,1 of which were converting to a turbo,just finished a 2ltr corsa, 1xrenault 5 gt turbo(i know i know)2 x old mini and one 1976 plate 911.......i think i now have petrol running through my veins.....this corsa will be my own tho!all mine......will defo doc it on several sites tho!j i c! :y
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« Reply #28 on: 03 September 2010, 09:13:41 »
Not wishing to teach anyone to suck eggs but be careful with DOT 5 if the system isn't completely new or at least thoroughly cleaned with new seals.

I would go for DOT 5.1 personally. Performs just as well without the pitfalls.

Anyway, sounds like an interesting project. As said, keep us updated on progress and good luck. :y

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« Reply #29 on: 03 September 2010, 09:17:20 »
Broomie, you are entirely correct.....Mr Trigger, an F20 'box will NOT last long, as torque through it, NOT BHP will kill it before anything else.
The whole idea of the conversion (I assume) is to make a "slightly modified" car outside have the get up and go of a leopard on steroids inside, and therfore "fool" a few idiots in hot hatches that you are easy meat for a burn around the block????

May I (humbly) suggest as somebody who has a load of experience in putting big engines in little cars that you do the weight/bias/gearing calculations FIRST, and make sure your brakes and transmission exceed the potential performance by 30% minimum, because the potential momentum/weight/BHP figures (to be safe) have to be exceeded by the braking weight over trim balance point by 25%.
Advice if you need it, just PM me.  Please ensure you also seam or stitch weld the major parts of the shell too, as the stresses you intend to inflict on the shell exceed the manufacturers build construction parameters by a lot. The Corsa was never designed to accept any more than 160 BHP, and the "chassis" welding and design was not welded or strengthened sufficently to accept the added weight and torque you intend to fit.

Not telling you how to suck eggs at all, just gently advising.


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