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[VXL V6]

Just wanted to say a public thanks to Loo Knee for fitting the replacement hub on my V6. It's a job i've never done before so didn't fancy the idea of breaking the car on my drive!

No Rick Astley in the background  but the Tea and chat was good!

Cheers Daz! 

[Darth Loo-knee]

Great to see you again Andy

Your welcome for a brew & chat anytime

[TheBoy]

That reminds me........

[VXL V6]

If it's ok with you i'll come back over when I get this new exhaust and get you to fit it (might also get you to double check the timing as well) then I reckon we should do this auto V manual test!!!

I reckon your right though, where one losses out the other gains, there'd be little in it over a set distance.

[Marks DTM Calib]

If it's ok with you i'll come back over when I get this new exhaust and get you to fit it (might also get you to double check the timing as well) then I reckon we should do this auto V manual test!!!

I reckon your right though, where one losses out the other gains, there'd be little in it over a set distance.

Manual will win....assuming the wheel seat interface is effective

[TheBoy]

I agree with DTM, I reckon overall the manual would win, basically less torque converter slip in low gears, and closer ratios.

There are some speeds where I reckon the auto has better acceleration, but overall, with a bit of clutch abuse, the manual should have it.

[feeutfo]

I think we need to prove some of these theories...

...where was that meet with the airfield?

[VXL V6]

Yeh, I can believe that in a straight line the manual would beat the auto but as TB says, there are times where the Auto is on-song (probably more about the equivilent ratio gear it's in).

In the real world and on an average A road I really don't think there's much in it.

[Debs.]

You have to remember that 'torque converter "slip" is actually torque multiplication; so fuel efficiency losses are turned into (effectively) a mechanical advantage (albeit with some thermodynamic loss)......I do think at times, that the Omega`s auto-transmission might benefit from one of those American (aftermarket) Hi-Torq converters; the type with a loss-less 1:1 electromagnetic clutch.

[Mysteryman]

But if you do the auto v manual challenge too often, the auto box will eventually explode.

[Martin_1962]

You have to remember that 'torque converter "slip" is actually torque multiplication; so fuel efficiency losses are turned into (effectively) a mechanical advantage (albeit with some thermodynamic loss)......I do think at times, that the Omega`s auto-transmission might benefit from one of those American (aftermarket) Hi-Torq converters; the type with a loss-less 1:1 electromagnetic clutch.

That is lock up 3rd and top

[Martin_1962]

But if you do the auto v manual challenge too often, the auto box will eventually explode.

And so will the clutch

[Martin_1962]

Off the line a manual will eat an auto of similar power to weight.

At 20 and up very little in it

[Darth Loo-knee]

Off the line a manual will eat an auto of similar power to weight.

At 20 and up very little in it

Maybe yours Mart

[Martin_1962]

Off the line a manual will eat an auto of similar power to weight.

At 20 and up very little in it

Maybe yours Mart

Nope - mine is sluggish up to 20 then goes well, same as every 4 speed auto I have driven.

QUite simply you can't rev up and dump clutch on an auto